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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: Vivitar 200 f=3 , snip the tip? |
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KarelDH wrote:
Hello,
I have a dilemma, i bought an vivitar ( 200 f=3 ) for a small price and can't deside if it's worth cutting a part from the aperture pin.
( the pin hits my box inside an it wil not fit).
(it feels like ripping the mercedes logo from your car, still drives the same but.... it dousnt feel like a mercedes enymore).
But always wanted a fast tele lens.
Anyone any experience with this lens ?
( its to fit my olympus e-620)
Thanks Karel.
(MD minolta)
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Can you undo the screws holding the plate around the pin and remove the pin? Replace the plate and keep the pin safe somewhere in case you ever want to replace it. |
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
first thing i tried ^^
But the pin is attached to a half circle whith springs that is a part off the apreture maganisem.
(ps it's hell to open this lens, they hide screws evrywere. ) |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3439 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Probably you can make the pin a bit shorter without making it unusefull for Minolta MD. That pins are often somewhat longer than needed. |
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
Is that the Vivitar Series 1 lens? Congratulations on acquiring a cult lens! Read more about it here (scroll down to the Vivitar section). Looks like it's in very nice condition too. That's a great buy.
Maybe you can open the mount and just temporarily remove the pin. But that's just a theory, I never had a Minolta lens. _________________ http://www.ipernity.com/home/2419272
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:31 am Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
yes it's a cult lens ,
the mean reason i feel bad, if i would nip the tip.
And the pin is part of the aperture mechanism.
So only choice is cutting the pin, or my lightbox (camera).
on the other hand i only paid 15 euro ( about 21 usd). so im not losing alot.
but still. ( if it was an common minolta 200 f4 , The pin was already gone by now).
so i am in a bit in a pickle.
Thanks for your idee's and toughts.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
This lens has an MD mount, right?
Now, what are the chances that this lens will ever be used again on a cam with MD mount?
There is no digital cam with that mount. Minolta film cameras can be bought for almost nothing and despite being wonderful cams in their days this shows their significance nowadays.
If you shorten that pin you can use it and it also can be used on a NEX, a µ4/3 and so so...
This lens is said to be one of the sharpest tele lenses ever, so it would be shame if it couldn't see any usage anymore. It will give you a 400mm equivalent with f/3!
I would cut it without hesitation.
And although it might a cult, it is not a classic Leitz or Zeiss glass which some would consider a sacrilege to cut things off.
I say, do it and enjoy it! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
What the others have said. Cut it and enjoy that lens. You won't regret it and you'll look back and laugh about this afterward. Go for it!!!!! _________________ Big Dawg |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I'm with Lucis and Dawg. Don't allow the lens to become more important than the photography experience. It's your lens and you should use it to your advantage.
As I said in another related post, I have one in M42 mount for sale. I have two of them, otherwise would never part. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
As I said in another related post, I have one in M42 mount for sale. |
Interested - any link with FS info and images? _________________ http://www.ipernity.com/home/2419272
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Laurentiu Cristofor wrote: |
woodrim wrote: |
As I said in another related post, I have one in M42 mount for sale. |
Interested - any link with FS info and images? |
PM sent. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
Thank u all for helping me make up my mind!
Today i did it, the pin is shortend.
Karel |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
KarelDH wrote: |
Thank u all for helping me make up my mind!
Today i did it, the pin is shortend.
Karel |
Oh my God! What have you done!!!
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.Just kidding! Enjoy it! And now show us some picture, please. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
Ok first thoughts.
Pros
sharp for an 200mm ( even at f=3)
verry close focusing range
accaptble weight
Beatiful collors ( for me '( green)
smooth bokeh ( agian personal)
cons
It hates white, blue hue al over the white parts of the Photo ( stops at f=5.6)
Somtimes hard to focus ( could be me, stil need to learn).
will test it more in the coming weeks
All pictures are straight out of the box (e-620)
(nothing special just shots).
F=3
100% crop ( above)
F=5.6
f=3 Blue hue on white spaces
100% crop
The more i will use it the more i will love it, im sure of it.
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
KarelDH wrote: |
Ok first thoughts.
Pros
sharp for an 200mm ( even at f=3)
verry close focusing range
accaptble weight
Beatiful collors ( for me '( green)
smooth bokeh ( agian personal)
cons
It hates white, blue hue al over the white parts of the Photo ( stops at f=5.6)
Somtimes hard to focus ( could be me, stil need to learn).
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Karel: I think you are correct with all of your assessment, including the focusing difficulty. I had quite a time at first before getting used to it. f/3 isn't much good except in dim, even lighting, then it works quite well, but in the sunlight you're asking for trouble. The blue fringing is characteristic of the Series 1 primes and in most cases is easy to correct. Sharpness is excellent when you hit the focus right, and bokeh is an attribute the lens is commonly thought to be very good. I do suggest working with it for a while as once you do get better at focusing and learn the lens' strengths and weaknesses, you'll really enjoy it. Perhaps you need to learn this lens more than others, but the rewards outweigh the trouble. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
hello,
Just a little question, is there any kind of screw-on filter that would reduce the blue hue ? |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
KarelDH wrote: |
hello,
Just a little question, is there any kind of screw-on filter that would reduce the blue hue ? |
A Skylight 1-A should do the trick. _________________ Big Dawg |
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edb
Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 4
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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edb wrote:
Big Dawg wrote: |
KarelDH wrote: |
hello,
Just a little question, is there any kind of screw-on filter that would reduce the blue hue ? |
A Skylight 1-A should do the trick. |
I seriously doubt it. A Skylight 1-A can undo blue hue due to air scattering, but I think it's caused by the lens in this case. |
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KarelDH
Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 169 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:29 am Post subject: |
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KarelDH wrote:
Hi,
I have been testing my lens alot and beside it purks whit white,
If u hit the focus spot on, this lens is idd scharp. ( oh and i love it now !)
(moon picture i took are better croped than any 300 or 400 mm lens i have) ( do not have a real good one).
because it's so hard to focus. These af-chips are they usefull ?
thanks
Handheld at f=5.6
100% crop +2 sharp on camera and tone correction (phshop)
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:31 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
KarelDH wrote: |
Hi,
I have been testing my lens alot and beside it purks whit white,
If u hit the focus spot on, this lens is idd scharp. ( oh and i love it now !)
(moon picture i took are better croped than any 300 or 400 mm lens i have) ( do not have a real good one).
because it's so hard to focus. These af-chips are they usefull ?
thanks
Handheld at f=5.6
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Good shot ! A tripod would make life so much easier |
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