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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Help with lenses Reply with quote


In July this year I am travelling out to western thailand/burmese border to help with the construction of a school building with 12 other sixth form students from around the UK.

Whilst there I aim to document the construction of the building and also the lives of the people in the area through the medium of photography.

Therefore I am currently raising funds to improve my photographic kit, tending to lean towards Auto Focus lenses to make life easier/give full compatability to the D7000 I wish to purchase.

This means that I could do with selling some of the lenses I have acquired whilst using my D40. I would be extremely grateful is somebody could help me with approximate values for each of these lenses.

Left to right (All Nikon Mount):

Tamron 80-210 f3.8-4 103A SN/4050714 (Cosmetically + Optically Good)
Nikon 50mm f1.8 AI SN/1515655 (Cosmetically + Optically Good)
Nikon 50mm f2 Pre-Ai SN/2050698 (Cosmetically Fair, Bent Filter Ring, Optically Good)
Tokina RMC 35mm f2.8 SN/7608888 (Cosmetically + Optically Good)
Vivitar 100-300 f5 Close Focus SN/37849846 (Cosmetically + Optically Good)

Regards Jake


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I guess 16-40gbp for the primes and 13-35GBP for the zooms.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK Smile

Best guess, from looking at ebay etc.

Tamron 103A - £5 - 10.
Nikon 50/1.8 E series - £35
Nikon 50/2 - £15
Tokina 35/2.8 - £20
Vivitar 100-300/5 - £20-25


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
I guess 20-40gbp for the primes and 13-35GBP for the zooms.


I suppose thats the range I was thinking, which is a shame in someways, as all the lenses can produce really good images


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd keep the MF lenses Wink


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I really want to, as tbh they are worth more to me than any value I can sell them for it appears, I just need to raise £900 for the D7000, then the money to buy Nikon 35-70 f2.8, Nikon 70-210 f4-5.6, Nikon 50mm 1.8 Af-d or Nikon 35mm f1.8 Af-s. This is all ontop of the £1600 for the project costs/building materials. It sucks being 17!


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do you really need AF lenses? The D7000 has a nice viewfinder, so you shouldn't have any issues focusing...


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Do you really need AF lenses? The D7000 has a nice viewfinder, so you shouldn't have any issues focusing...


As much as I love using MF lenses, I always feel that I can miss really candid moments as I have to stop and focus, whereas with an AF lens, I can just click and nobody notices. Also in the environment I am travelling to, I don't want to be really obtrusive and having to take extra time to photograph people can often get there attention before I can actually get the shot I want.

Jake


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good point but you have a skill to develop. Keep in mind that AF is not always in focus and sometimes focuses on the wrong target. This is the difference between a seasoned photographer and one who wants to capture a million shots and hope for the best. I am not one to tell you which is best. Each has it's advantages. The gratification factor is greater for the manual artist with quick skills! Wink. Nobody can ever beat that and certainly none of the newbies with AF coming up.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jacob12_1993 wrote:
As much as I love using MF lenses, I always feel that I can miss really candid moments as I have to stop and focus, whereas with an AF lens, I can just click and nobody notices.

Some ways to deal with MF focus:

* Prefocus a wider lens for desired DOF. Whatever you sell, get a 24mm or wider lens. At 24mm, set aperture to f/11, prefocus to 1.5m, for DOF from 0.9-5m. Or prefocus to 3m, for DOF from 1.2m to infinity.

* Trap-focus -- on my Pentax it's called Catch-In-Focus. Using a wide aperture, you'll have a fast shutter in all but low light, and can trap-focus a subject pretty quickly. Trap-focus is the non-rich-person's AF.

* Get a split-focus screen, and practice practice practice. That's how we did it Back In The Day before AF. Even with Nikons. Somehow, it worked. Often enough, anyway.

Or, go AF, and we will bid you a fond farewell from MFL land. Sad


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jacob12_1993 wrote:
...It sucks being 17!

It doesn't get much better. Wink

Once you have a job and earn good money, you pay for a house, cars, family, insurance, etc...

Just enjoy the days of your youth and of little obligations, they are earlier gone than you think!

As for your issue: I would keep the lenses and try to find an extra job to earn some more money...


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
jacob12_1993 wrote:
...It sucks being 17!

It doesn't get much better. Wink

Ah, at 17 years, I was a skinny long-haired hippy vagrant in the Haight-Ashbury, with only a sleeping bag, an old Argus C3 camera, a cheap guitar, and a blotter-full of Owsley acid. Now I am not so skinny, and I lost the sleeping bag. But life was exciting then: hitch-hiking around the country, having visions, meeting girls, singing on street-corners, etc. Yes, enjoy it while you can. Life is all downhill from where you are now. Cool


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey Jacob,

Allow me to present an opposing viewpoint. You're traveling to some wilderness area on the border between Thailand and Burma, it sounds like, where the closest decent levels of civilization may be hundreds of miles away. You know, if it were me, I would absolutely NOT bring a DSLR into that sort of environment unless I was being paid very well to do so.

I would go with a 10 to 12 mp P&S digicam that takes AA batteries (like the Canon A1000IS, for example), pack a bunch of spare batteries and a couple extra memory cards. As a back-up I would also bring a 35mm manual/mechanical camera (like an FM or an old Nikkormat) to use with the Tamron 80-210, the 50/1.8 Nikkor, and the 35mm Tokina. I'd leave the other two lenses at home. And I'd bring spare batteries for that camera and as much film as I could afford.

And that's it. No way would I bring a brand new D7000 and a clutch of brand new lenses into a part of the world I've never been to before without some pretty clear assurances that my gear (and I) would be safe, as well as reasonably protected from environmental conditions.

Just sayin' . . .


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch raises some good point I should have thought of. If you aren't assured of power for recharging, you can't take enough batteries. A superzoom P&S is definitely a good idea, as well as a manual film camera, and probably a handheld light meter.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was at the Wolverhampton Camera Fair today and you would have been very disappointed at the prices some of the old lenses were fetching, the two zooms you have - similar ones were going for £5 to £10. And 'kit lens' 50's for £10 to £20.

I would use them till they drop.
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