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JohnBee
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 Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:27 am Post subject: Tamron SP 60-300mm + 1.7X TC: 510mm sample |
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JohnBee wrote:
Took this snap earlier today with a Tamron SP 60-300 + 1.7X TC = 510mm
The sun was setting and so I had to push ISO to 640 to compensate for a rather slow shutter, so there is a little detail loss due to NR. Though overall I'd say the results look promising...
I'm going to run some more tests tomorrow in better light to see how things look then.
PS. The camera was spot focused on the grass stock rather than the subject, in case someone wondered about the DOF. All in all, I'd say not to shabbey for a $60 dollar eBay zoom lens 
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Fretless Pete
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Fretless Pete wrote:
Thats just around the price i paid for mine ( in £GBP )
I think the IQ is damn good. What was your 1.7x TC ? I've tried the Tam SP 01F BBAR flat field 2x TC before, but i'm not 100% convinced of its quality
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JohnBee
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBee wrote:
| Fretless Pete wrote: |
Thats just around the price i paid for mine ( in £GBP )
I think the IQ is damn good. What was your 1.7x TC ? I've tried the Tam SP 01F BBAR flat field 2x TC before, but i'm not 100% convinced of its quality |
This one was taken with a Pentax SMC-AF 17x TC
I tried the same lens with other 1.4 and 1.7x TC's but this one gave the best results. Plus it makes the Tamron Auto Focusing which is somewhat convenient. |
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poilu
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
nice portrait, if your 1.7x TC is AF, does it mean this pic is AF
on your k20d, the 510mm are 765mm!
your daughter have good eyes if she find you at this distance
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
What distance between you and the girl? |
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Phenix jc
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Phenix jc wrote:
Quite a nice result ! wide open !?
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JohnBee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: |
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JohnBee wrote:
| poilu wrote: |
nice portrait, if your 1.7x TC is AF, does it mean this pic is AF
on your k20d, the 510mm are 765mm!
your daughter have good eyes if she find you at this distance |
The combination could be used in AF, but since my adaptall adapter is not A(PK/A), it is manual aperture and so I am limited to MF.
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| What distance between you and the girl? |
Aprox. 100 feet
| Phenix jc wrote: |
| Quite a nice result ! wide open !? |
I believe this was f/5.6, and the lens is 3.8 if I'm not mistaken.
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mo wrote:
What camera was it taken with...I like it. 
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JohnBee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:13 am Post subject: |
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JohnBee wrote:
| mo wrote: |
| What camera was it taken with...I like it. |
K20D |
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soikka
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:21 am Post subject: |
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soikka wrote:
| JohnBee wrote: |
| poilu wrote: |
nice portrait, if your 1.7x TC is AF, does it mean this pic is AF
on your k20d, the 510mm are 765mm!
your daughter have good eyes if she find you at this distance |
The combination could be used in AF, but since my adaptall adapter is not A(PK/A), it is manual aperture and so I am limited to MF. ] |
This is not the limitation with this AF-teleconverter, it focuses just fine with all manual lenses, which are bright enough (users report it to work up to F4.5-F5.6 depending on the light available). So it should focus just fine even without the PKA-adapter, in this case the lens is just too dark at least in the long end (F5.4).
| JohnBee wrote: |
| Phenix jc wrote: |
| Quite a nice result ! wide open !? |
I believe this was f/5.6, and the lens is 3.8 if I'm not mistaken. |
The lens is F3.8-F5.4.
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/23A.html
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JohnBee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: |
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JohnBee wrote:
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| This is not the limitation with this AF-teleconverter, it focuses just fine with all manual lenses, which are bright enough (users report it to work up to F4.5-F5.6 depending on the light available). So it should focus just fine even without the PKA-adapter, in this case the lens is just too dark at least in the long end (F5.4). |
Indeed.
If I had a PK/A adaptall mount, I could shoot without stopping down and it would most likely work all the way to full extension. However, my own experiences have shown that at/or around 5.6, AF is really borderline in terms of usefulness. At which point it really only works reliably in very good light.
But with my particular PK adaptall adapter, I am at the mercy of two forces that work against this TC being AF. The first is where the adfaptall mount(flange surface) is powder coated. Which prevents the contact pins from being shorted out this stopping AF, The other issue is where I must stop down manually with this lens, therefore... the TC AF function is not an option with this particular combination.
I also know I could short the pins on my camera using tin foil(or equivalent) but I'm just not big on rickety modding when it camera hacks. But given these results, I think this lens warrants picking-up a PK/A adapter off eBay or similar. |
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Phenix jc wrote:
THANK YOU for the new Adaptall's link(s) !
All the old links were hi-jacked ; I went on web.archive.org
but the pictures were lost (and I didn't find anything on google then  )
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soikka
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soikka wrote:
| Phenix jc wrote: |
THANK YOU for the new Adaptall's link(s) !
All the old links were hi-jacked ; I went on web.archive.org
but the pictures were lost (and I didn't find anything on google then ) |
Thank Attila. He's behind it all. Copied the site to a new server after the old one was lost.
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Phenix jc
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Phenix jc wrote:
Well, Yes indeed ! (Much more living than web.archive.org which is a Great resource anyway)
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biggles3 wrote:
I really like this lens. Using it on a Contax is very easy especially as it is surprisingly light given its focal length.
I've also used it on my Olympus E-3 with a 4/3-Adaptall 2 adapter and am awaiting a M4/3 adapter so that I can pop it onto an E-PL1. Having in effect a 120-600 zoom is very useful.
It is sharp, offers good contrast and distortion is well-handled for such a zoom length. And current ebay prices represent a bargain for such a good quality lens.
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Fretless Pete
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Fretless Pete wrote:
A 60-300mm lens is still a 60-300mm lens no matter what you mount it on.
The FOV gets cropped, and by how much depends on your crop factor, but thats it. There's nothing that i know of that magically increases focal length of a lens when its mounted on crop cameras
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JohnBee
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JohnBee wrote:
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| A 60-300mm lens is still a 60-300mm lens no matter what you mount it on. |
Try taking a look at this link to find more info: http://www.lonestardigital.com/multipler.htm |
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