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onesurvive
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: Olympus OM 50mm f1.4 vs Contax Planar 50mm f1.4 |
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onesurvive wrote:
I have the Olympus OM 50mm f1.4 and I'm interested in getting a Planar 50mm f1.4. I was wondering if it is worth it? Considering the quality and the price? Special characteristics of the lenses to consider? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
You will get different bokeh, different colors (Zeiss)
Both are great lens I think they are on same level, only your taste will make difference. Take a Planar and decide by your self keep both or sell which ones. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
I luv my 1.4/50 planar, even though I continue to buy more 50mm lenses.
I always fall back to choosing the Planar as my favorite over all of them.
Planar better watch out now, as I have Volna-9 and Rokkor 1,4's in the mails... my xmas presents to self _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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onesurvive
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 Posts: 34 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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onesurvive wrote:
Thanks for the feedback!
On an unrelated note, my PMs seem to be stuck in my outbox. Is that supposed to happen? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
still there while reader not open, normal behavior. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Attila wrote: |
still there while reader not open, normal behavior. |
Thanks for the information Attila. I thought that I had the same problem a couple of days ago. _________________ John |
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Puplet
Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 410
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Puplet wrote:
Like Atilla said, they are different lenses and what is best will depend on your style of photography. I never had much luck with the Oly 50/1.4 although I found it better at short to middle ranges (under 3m). I much prefer the Zeiss 50/1.4 - but I probably use the Olympus 55/1.2 (which can be had for similar money to the Zeiss) the most. It's not as sharp as the Zeiss, and the f1.2 doesn't make much difference in practice - but it gives me the softness I often want. If you prefer razor sharp, the Zeiss wins. |
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Paul
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 173 Location: Hamburg-Germany
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Paul wrote:
On dslr the OM 1.8/50 is told to be better.
- oh, I am quite sure that a Zeiss Planar will give you not only different color and bokeh but more sharpness too! _________________ Paul
(SLR-experiences since 1981)
Pentax and Canon - Sony digital as well
too many lenses and flashes |
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
Never used Planar Planar 50/1.4.
I have Olympus 50mm f1.4 as well as Olympus 50mm f1.8 (as well as Planar 50mm f1.7).
No doubt, If I have to choose one lens out of these 4, I will jump on Planar 50mm f1.7 (difficult to think of a lens better than this).
Olympus 50mm f1.4 is soft wide open, (I consider softer than Tak or may be similar) but very creamy/nice bokeh & nice colors....
Oly 50mm f1.8 is sharp, and tak sharp little stopped down. But busy bokeh. Its very small, almost similar to pancake.
About Olympus 50mm f1.4, there are multiple versions, esp regarding coating. What I have heard, last versions were multi coated and really sharp. Those go for higher prices. Last version with MC are from a particular numbering series. I am not sure, but think, those are from 27xxxx series. _________________ -Ballu
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think you had trouble with your copy Ballu, any of my copy were sharp at wide open. MC and non-MC both, I did my best shoot in my life with a non-mc Olympus OM 50mm f1.4.
Olympus OM 50mm f1.4 silver nose (single coated lens) + Olympus E-1
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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hacksawbob
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1293 Location: LANCS UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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hacksawbob wrote:
I did a not very scientific test at 1.4 I found the yashica ML was sharpest, but the colour and contrast on the Planar sold it for me. the Oly came third from memory. A nice lens but there is better. at not much more or maybe even less. _________________ LENS LIST |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
The Zuiko 1.4/50 is a great little lens and still qute affordable.
I have never shot with a Planar 1.4/50.
But I know (and have) other 50ish mm lenses that are really recommendable:
- Leica Summicron-R 2.0/50 (a gem!)
- Takumar 1.4/50
- any Color-Ultron is nice (Rollei, Zeiss, Voigtländer)
- Pentax-M 1.7/50 (this is a hidden treasure!)
- Mamiya Sekor 1.8/55
...just to name a few! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
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My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
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KhanX
Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 430 Location: Bangkok, Thailand, München, Göttingen, Germany
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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KhanX wrote:
The best 50mm f1.4 lens in overall aspects (except the price) in my opinion as follows,
1. Planar T* 50mm f1.4
2. Nikkor-s Non AI 50mm f1.4
3. Nikon AI-S 50mm f1.4
4. Olympus (single coated) 50mm f1.4
5. Pentax-m 50mm f1.4
6. Takumar 50mm f1.4
if concern the price too, I'll buy Nikkor-s Non AI 50mm f1.4, only one. _________________ Camera : Leica M8, Sony Nex5, Sigma SD14, Canon 5D, Olympus E-1, Panasonic DMC L1, Pentax K10D Grand Prix, Nikon D1X, Contax RTS III, Contax 167MT, Exakta RTL1000, Minolta X-700, Canon T90, Canon F-1, Pentacon Six TL
Lens :
Tele : Canon FD 300mm f2.8 s.s.c. fluorite, Mamiya 645 500mm f5.6, Pentacon 500mm f5.6, Sigma APO 300mm f4 macro, Nikkor Reflex C 500mm f8, Canon FD 200mm f2.8 s.s.c., Rubinar 300mm f4.5 mirror
Macro : Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.8, Vivitar VMC 100mm f2.8 Macro, Panagor PMC 90mm f2.8, Edicar 90mm f2.8 Macro, Nikon Micro 55mm f3.5, Takumar 50mm f4 Macro, Nikon Non AI 55mm f3.5 Micro, SMC Takumar 100mm f4 macro, Canon FD 100mm f4 Macro, Canon FD 200mm f4 Macro, Volna-9 50mm f2.8
Short tele : Pentacon Six 120mm f2.8, Carl Zeiss Contax T* 100mm f2, Meyer optik Trioplan 100MM F2.8, Porst 135mm f1.8, Sigmatel ys 135mm f1.8, Schneider 135mm f3.5, Makinon 135mm f3.5, Komura 135mm f3.5, Hexanon 100mm f2.8, Schneider Variogon 80-240mm 4.5, Schneider 135mm f4
Normal : Canon 50mm f0.95, Schneider 50mm f0.95, Hexanon 57mm f1.2, Hexanon 40mm f1.8, Taylor hobson 50mm f1.8, Cooke Kinetal 50mm f1.8, Canon EF 28mm f2.8, Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 Mega O.I.S., Carl Zeiss Contax Distagon 18mm f4, Carl Zeiss Contax Planar T* 50mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Contax 35mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 Macro, Yashica 35mm f2.8, Helios 44-2/58, Helios 85mm f1.5, Pentax SMC-M 50mm f1.4, Pentax SMC-F 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f1.7, Minolta MC PF Rokkor 50mm f1.4, Porst 28mm f2.8, Meyer - Optik Lydith 30mm f3.5, Nikon AIS 50mm f1.2, Tamron SP 28mm f2.8 adaptall, Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8, Vivitar Series 1 55mm f1.2, Canon FD 85mm f1.2L, Canon FD 55mm f1.2L, Angenieux 135mm f3.5, Cooke Kinetal 75mm f2.6, Steinheil 85mm f2.8, Leica M 50mm f2, Zeiss flextogon 35mm f2.4, Pancolar 50mm f1.8, Schneider Xenar 85mm f4
Wide : Leica Elmerit M 28mm f2.8 asph, Zeiss Contax 21mm f2.8, Zeiss Flextogon 20mm f2.8, Exakta 24mm f2.8 macro, Tokina 17mm f4 |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
The 50/1,4??
SUMMILUX M !!!!!
I had an intermediate version (2nd). Not MC. Less contrast than the marvelous summicron M 50/2, but it had a dream bokeh and a sensual colors.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
KhanX wrote: |
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4. Olympus (single coated) 50mm f1.4
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the single coated? that's interesting.
Usually I read that the MC is considered superior, ( Attila I know, your best photo was taken with the singel coated )
and that the MC with a serial number higher than 1.100.000 are further improved. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
KhanX wrote: |
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4. Olympus (single coated) 50mm f1.4
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the single coated? that's interesting.
Usually I read that the MC is considered superior, ( Attila I know, your best photo was taken with the singel coated )
and that the MC with a serial number higher than 1.100.000 are further improved. |
I had both lenses, MC more like AF lenses , neutral. SC more art lens in same situation like bird perform extremely well and in "bookshelf test" , "neighbor roof" perform less _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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4Boys
Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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4Boys wrote:
Wow, what an amazing image.
Attila wrote: |
I think you had trouble with your copy Ballu, any of my copy were sharp at wide open. MC and non-MC both, I did my best shoot in my life with a non-mc Olympus OM 50mm f1.4.
Olympus OM 50mm f1.4 silver nose (single coated lens) + Olympus E-1
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
4Boys wrote: |
Wow, what an amazing image.
Attila wrote: |
I think you had trouble with your copy Ballu, any of my copy were sharp at wide open. MC and non-MC both, I did my best shoot in my life with a non-mc Olympus OM 50mm f1.4.
Olympus OM 50mm f1.4 silver nose (single coated lens) + Olympus E-1
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you ! Welcome here! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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aleksanderpolo
Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 684
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
I have two copies of OM 50/1.4 SN > 1.1M, both are very sharp wide open. I think there are at least 5 versions of OM 50/1.4, that's why some think that it's soft wide open (presumably using the older versions). Color tends to be a little yellowish, bokeh is a little funky.
I have also C/Y 50/1.4 and 50/1.7 MM. 50/1.4 has more vivid color, a little reddish (not as red as Nikkor though), very sharp and contrasty and of course 3D.
I think they are two rather different lens worth having both. |
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vulko
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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vulko wrote:
According to the price, it should be Zuiko 55/1.2 vs Planar
Here's some OM 55/1.2 shots:
@F1.2
@F1.4
@f2.0
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4Boys
Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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4Boys wrote:
This shot really jumps out at me.
I saw you for sale items. Do you have links to some shots taken with the Helios?
Did you really takes the shot below with a Canon 550D + OM 55/1.2?
vulko wrote: |
According to the price, it should be Zuiko 55/1.2 vs Planar
Here's some OM 55/1.2 shots:
@f2.0
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vulko
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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vulko wrote:
4Boys wrote: |
This shot really jumps out at me.
I saw you for sale items. Do you have links to some shots taken with the Helios?
Did you really takes the shot below with a Canon 550D + OM 55/1.2? |
Sure, why should I lie?
Here's a Helios 44m-4 portrait (made with the lens i'm selling):
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4Boys
Joined: 03 Sep 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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4Boys wrote:
vulko wrote: |
4Boys wrote: |
This shot really jumps out at me.
Did you really takes the shot below with a Canon 550D + OM 55/1.2? |
Sure, why should I lie?
Here's a Helios 44m-4 portrait (made with the lens i'm selling):
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Wasn't implying that you were lying: Just surprised that the camera wasn't a micro four thirds.
Thanks for the image. |
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declan
Joined: 17 Dec 2009 Posts: 162 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: |
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declan wrote:
Only had & tested the OM 50/f1.4....bokeh & focusing are excellent...haven't try the CZ (still dreaming) _________________ Owning a DSLR does not make you a photographer. It makes you a DSLR owner." - Anonymous
Evolt E-3|ZD 50-200 MK I|OM 65-200/f4|Tamron SP 90/f2.5|Tamron 2xtcon 18F|01F|OM 50/1.4
EP-L 2+EVF2|MMF-2|ZD 14-54 MK2|OM 50/1.8|Mal-1|Metz 44-af1
NX300|nx18-55|sef-8a
Mono-TriPod|Slingshot200AW|Compuday150|Mini Trekker AW|sling
Ebay : declan_79 |
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