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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:16 am Post subject: Soligor 35mm - assembled correctly? |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Hi all,
Just received this off fleabay. All rings are a bit sloppy. Has T-mount M42 thread, but will go nowhere near infinity focus when screwed all the way into my EOS adapter. If I leave about a 2mm gap then infinity is fine. Looking at the lens, the focus ring encroaches an awfully long way over the register markings and there seems to be a seperate (brass?) ring of around the right thickness which is currently between the aperture control rings. Has anyone got one of these lenses? If so, is mine assembled correctly do you know?
Front:
Without Adapter
With adapter (and 2mm gap)
Yeah, I know, it's in awful condition, so why do I care |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10959 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Oooooooooh, a Soligor with a "KA" serial # prefix! News to me.
Before the photos downloaded I was thinking the mount was CS not T; CS has same thread as T, but is thinner, about 2mm. A T-adapter on CS lens acts as a short closeup extension tube which would account for focus cannot reach infinity.
Seeing the photos showing tool marks, the lens has been opened; perhaps was reassembled incorrect, or more likely somebody using T instead of CS adapter has attempted to adjust focusing.
Iirc, if the focus ring screws are loosened, the focus ring can be slid toward the mount end, revealing screws on the aperture O-C ring that can be loosened to slide O<-.->C ring into place over the exposed brass.
I understand the value here lies in the learning; this worn lens is in perfect condition for first time repair. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Any idea regarding year of production ? Seems that this lens could tell a long story.
_________________ Rolf |
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor 35mm - assembled correctly? |
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dimitrygo wrote:
martyn_bannister wrote: |
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Has T-mount M42 thread, but will go nowhere near infinity focus when screwed all the way into my EOS adapter. If I leave about a 2mm gap then infinity is fine. |
It could be YS mount, it is about 2mm thicker than T-mount. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
Any idea regarding year of production ? Seems that this lens could tell a long story.
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No ideas from me, that's for sure Must be an expedrt out there who can tell from the seial number etc. Is the SOLIGOR in script, rather than capitals, an early thing or late do you know?
Managed to find a picture of one in slightly better condition This seems to indicate that it is indeed assembled correctly.
http://static.oxfam.com/ProductImages/HighStDonated/6_2009/307504/large_be611dc0559c4bd2ba640de8af525a49.jpg
Time to take it apart I think
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Hopefully someone can get closer on the year. It should be early to mid 1960's. By late 1960's I believe they went to block lettering. Not sure on the exact year. Lenses starting with 6 were Komine made. But I've never seen one starting in the letters KA.
I do believe by the styling clues it is an early Komine lens.
I would of bought that lens just because I've never seen a KA Soligor before.
Hope you can get it working okay. I'm looking foward to some pictures from it. _________________
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
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Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I have seen several of these around, I have been mildly interested in picking one up.
Rather early retrofocus design, check out that rear element way out there. Its also a tiny lens as these things go.
I would guess Komine or Kawanon, outside chance possibly of Itoh.
I would also agree early-mid 1960's. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
luisalegria and water g, many thanks for the input.
Hmmm.... so the Soligor in script rather than capitals is an early trait you think? Perhaps the KA prefix alludes to KAwanon? Certainly this one's been well used or abused.
The one in the Oxfam shop has the same serial prefix - no surprise really http://www.oxfam.org.uk/shop/productdetails.aspx?catalog=HighStDonated&product=307504&ito=3421
Wish I'd bought that one! The front element on my one is scratched, to say the least. Having taken it apart, I think I have solved the infinity focus issue and will take pictures today to explain. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Disassembled and reassembled |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Well, took it apart, cleaned it, re-lubed and adjusted the infinity focus. All seems OK now
http://www.mtbgg.co.uk/Soligor35Page.html for details on how it came apart and went back together. |
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