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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: The Linhof debute. |
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zewrak wrote:
My first exposure with the Linhof. Using an Ektar 203mm. It is shot on a grade 4(!) paper, since I am yet to recieve the film I ordered.
Image is unedited, except for made positive in photoshop and removed a few spots.
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womble
Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 987 Location: Hertfordshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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womble wrote:
That is a gorgeous image. Excellent stuff. K. _________________ Kris Lockyear
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
I presume you have tilt on it to blur the background at the top. The car is certainly sharp but it all looks rather surreal.
I read the other day that photographic paper is orthochromatic, so it responds primarily to blue light. As a result the blues will tend to be blown out. It is the same way B&W film worked a century ago.
You should have a lot of fun getting to know that camera. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Yes the front standard is tilted to blur the top of the image. As you said, blue is easy to blow out on paper. The bottom half is green all over thats why it looks like night time. Lucky me it had blueish lights in the car too, so it made it seem like the lower part is in the middle of the night, while the top is daylight.
Knowing id blow out the sky and the church in the background, I chose to blur it. Amazing how you notice stuff on a huge groundglass compared to the tiny 35mm viewfinders.
This will be fun. Tuesday or wednsday I get my shipment of 100 sheets. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Woo-hoo! Good image ... _________________ Paul
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I think it looks surreal fine to me. Looking forward to more! The car looks
like a toy, is that an old Volvo, remember seeing them way back when. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
...looks like a Skoda or Renault to me... Excellent first result, you might as well burn the damn camera now, you'll be hard put to match the artistic quality here _________________ -Jussi
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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
...looks like a Skoda or Renault to me... Excellent first result, you might as well burn the damn camera now, you'll be hard put to match the artistic quality here |
I think its a Ford Anglia 1960ish. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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zewrak
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
I think it looks surreal fine to me. Looking forward to more! The car looks
like a toy, is that an old Volvo, remember seeing them way back when. |
Maybe you think of the Volvo PV _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5038 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
You people don't know Renault Dauphine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Dauphine _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Yes that's what I had in mind... didn't remember the model name... _________________ -Jussi
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Yes. They were quite popular in the US in the late 50's early 60's as just about the only competition for the VW..
I never saw any dark colored ones though. They were mostly a light neutral color here.
PS I really like this shot.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Well done !
You got better results on paper than I have.
What paper/what developer ? _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
Well done !
You got better results on paper than I have.
What paper/what developer ? |
Dektol and I think it was some Fomaspeed grade 4. I have to check it out, preflashed though. Ill get back to you for certain about the paper next time ive beet to the darkroom. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Question:
What weight paper do you use? I want to try paper in my Graflex however I don't know whether single or double weight works.
Thanks very much
Jules |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I spotted the Renault right off. Back in the day the Renaut Dauphin was almost as common as VWs around these parts. Even rear-engined too.
Question about the Linhof: which model is it? Linhofs are ultra cool, usually with prices to match. _________________ Michael
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3242 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Man, that picture of yours makes me think more and more at buying a LF. Not a Linhof but a Graflex. Much cheaper.
The other option would be to buy the 17/4 TS-E but it's friggingly expensive. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
If you're looking for a field camera, a Graflex is a great way to enter the format, but there are studio cams and monorails that can be had for cheap too. A couple of which are also Graflex, interestingly enough . . .
Me, I'd like to build my own. Plans are scarce, but I finally found a site on the Internet where John Grepstad, the author to a book on building large format cameras, has posted pdf's and .doc files of his book.
Here's his home page:
http://home.online.no/~gjon/jgcam.htm _________________ Michael
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:22 am Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
If you're looking for a field camera, a Graflex is a great way to enter the format, but there are studio cams and monorails that can be had for cheap too. A couple of which are also Graflex, interestingly enough . . .
Me, I'd like to build my own. Plans are scarce, but I finally found a site on the Internet where John Grepstad, the author to a book on building large format cameras, has posted pdf's and .doc files of his book.
Here's his home page:
http://home.online.no/~gjon/jgcam.htm |
They are fairly easy to build however there are so many little refinements in a store bought camera such as detents to position the standards, scales for repeating positioning and angles, locking devices etc, etc that buying something like a Graflex Speed or a technical camera already have in them really makes sense.
I had a homebuilt (well done) 5x7 but it was such a hassle that I gave up on it and got a Graflex Speed II. Works great.
Cheers
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:13 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
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cooltouch wrote: |
They are fairly easy to build however there are so many little refinements in a store bought camera such as detents to position the standards, scales for repeating positioning and angles, locking devices etc, etc that buying something like a Graflex Speed or a technical camera already have in them really makes sense.
I had a homebuilt (well done) 5x7 but it was such a hassle that I gave up on it and got a Graflex Speed II. Works great.
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Sure, but where's the fun in buying something when you can make it? As for the detents and scales, heck that's just a matter of a bit of additional challenge. _________________ Michael
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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
The camera is a Linhof Kardan Color.
Looks like this. I paid about 300€ for it, including lens and 10 film holders.
The paper I have used is as thin as possible. Since you are basically trying to emulate film, which obviously is thinner then paper. This particular paper was a Fortespeed RC plastic grade 4 semi matte paper.
In my experience matte paper works well.
I am also planning to build my own camera. An 8x10. There is really only one measurement that is critical, and thats the film plane. I would recommend getting those parts and build a camera around that. Also the bellows would be sweet to have from start. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
[quote="cooltouch"]
lulalake wrote: |
cooltouch wrote: |
They are fairly easy to build however there are so many little refinements in a store bought camera such as detents to position the standards, scales for repeating positioning and angles, locking devices etc, etc that buying something like a Graflex Speed or a technical camera already have in them really makes sense.
I had a homebuilt (well done) 5x7 but it was such a hassle that I gave up on it and got a Graflex Speed II. Works great.
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Sure, but where's the fun in buying something when you can make it? As for the detents and scales, heck that's just a matter of a bit of additional challenge. |
LOL! Go for it, just watch those table saws (I know only too well about those beasts).
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
lulalake wrote: |
LOL! Go for it, just watch those table saws (I know only too well about those beasts).
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Me too, unfortunately. I probably wouldn't even need to use a table saw though. I have a bandsaw and a drum sander and a milling machine. With those tools, I can control the dimensions of both wood and metal to 0.001" accuracy.
I think for my first view camera, though, I would rather buy an old, worn out one, rescue the hardware from it and install it on a new body with new bellows.
Sorry, don't mean to hijack this thread. _________________ Michael
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zewrak
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Its ok. I find it very interesting since I am into the process myself.
I am making mine in aluminium, mostly I think.
Lets gather resources and cooperate _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Sounds good. We should start a thread about DIY large-format cameras. I've already found quite a few resources on the Web. _________________ Michael
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