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Jupiter 9 2/85 ABTOMAT without aperture ring. What mount is?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:25 am    Post subject: Jupiter 9 2/85 ABTOMAT without aperture ring. What mount is? Reply with quote
Help to know what camera is this Jupiter.
Bayonet mount, the diaphragm is controlled by cam
It looks like a gem!!
Many Thanks.







Last edited by francotirador on Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:34 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's for the Kiev 10 or 15 bayonet mount.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Many Thanks.
It was given to a friend, we will see if it is possible to adapt.
Wink


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've read that it's quite difficult. The aperture mechanism requires some serious ingenuity and tampering skills to make it operable off of a kiev 10/15.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have that in Jupiter-11, MIR-1 and MIR-20

Shoot wide open still sharp and good.

One I had modified to use on Nikon but no aperture control.

http://forum.mflenses.com/not-selling-anymore-abtomat-135mm-f-4-t30965.html


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
themoleman342 wrote:
It's for the Kiev 10 or 15 bayonet mount.


Yes.

Klaus


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Look at those shiny bronze aperture blades!


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Krisgage wrote:
I have that in Jupiter-11, MIR-1 and MIR-20

Shoot wide open still sharp and good.

One I had modified to use on Nikon but no aperture control.

http://forum.mflenses.com/not-selling-anymore-abtomat-135mm-f-4-t30965.html


What is the distance from the sensor to the mount?
Nikon works at 46.5 mm .
Thanks


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
aoleg wrote:
Look at those shiny bronze aperture blades!


Yes, that is. They look like bronze or copper. Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
francotirador wrote:
Krisgage wrote:
I have that in Jupiter-11, MIR-1 and MIR-20

Shoot wide open still sharp and good.

One I had modified to use on Nikon but no aperture control.

http://forum.mflenses.com/not-selling-anymore-abtomat-135mm-f-4-t30965.html


What is the distance from the sensor to the mount?
Nikon works at 46.5 mm .
Thanks


I am not that sure, sorry. It seems to be a mystery. But according to a discussion here : http://forum.manualfocus.org/viewtopic.php?id=11584

They says 44mm.

I have removed quite a bit of the mounting and now works bit different. I will get you a proper photo of those bits and pieces together.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought in a register more higher taht 44mm. I have seen adapters to Kiev 10/15 to Zenith M39, and the M39 is a register of 45.5 mm, I think. Rolling Eyes
I will start with the test.
Krisgage, your help is greatly appreciated, thanks.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi francotirador

Here are the photos, I will try my best to explain.

The parts taken out and the extension tube ( tube 3 and mounting ring ).



Part of the helicod and mount taken out.



Tube 3 into the lens body and mounting ring unscrewed





Finally the lens and the mount. I roughly measured the rear most glass to the mounting flange is about 2cm. Its hard to measure given the depth.



PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Footnote : I will be happy to buy it from you if you do not want to operate it Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Krisgage wrote:
Footnote : I will be happy to buy it from you if you do not want to operate it Laughing


Thank you very much for the information, Crisgage. This lens is not mine. It belongs to the technician who repairs my photographic equipment. It is an old men and one of the best in the region, leica specialist, Victor Nascello.
It is quite possible that ends in an EOS mount and some mechanism to handle the diaphragm.
We will adapt it between both.

Greetings and thank you very much again for your help.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
francotirador wrote:
Krisgage wrote:
Footnote : I will be happy to buy it from you if you do not want to operate it Laughing


Thank you very much for the information, Crisgage. This lens is not mine. It belongs to the technician who repairs my photographic equipment. It is an old men and one of the best in the region, leica specialist, Victor Nascello.
It is quite possible that ends in an EOS mount and some mechanism to handle the diaphragm.
We will adapt it between both.

Greetings and thank you very much again for your help.


No problem. It was meant to be a joke. Great to hear it was in a good good hand in fact a specialist ! Hope to see the end product soon. It got me excited too. Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
definitely the register this lens is very close to 45.5mm. I did the first tests.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
First photo, the lens on my hand, separated from the camera body by a cardboard of 1.5mm.
The scale of focus is quite appropriate


the distracting bokeh, is normal in this lens?
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