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Hari
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 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: SOLD ---> Carl Zeiss Biotar 1Q 58/2 <--- SOLD |
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Hari wrote:
SOLD to guatipen
Hi All,
The usual stuff - the lens is like new, perfect glass with no dust, no haze, no fungus, no scratches
Body is also in perfect condition
Focussing is a pleasure, no oil on the blades
Front&back caps + Leather container
I bought this on an impulse but I already have a few Biotars ... this lens needs no introduction, it's THE legendary Biotar
€75 + shipping + 3.5% paypal
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Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
My pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dementedjesus/
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guatipen
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: pm sent |
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guatipen wrote:
PM SENT |
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
Is this the 10- or 17-blade version?
(I have heard of 12-blade versions as well, but haven't actually seen one)
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Lars
Bodies:
DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
35mm: Voigtl�nder Vitoret
Nikkor MF
24/2.8K AI'd, 28/2.8 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 Micro, 35-70/3.5 AIS, 85/1.8K AI'd, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AI, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/3.5 AI, Nikkor 180/2.8 ED AIS, 200/4-Q AI'd, 300/4.5-H AI'd
M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
Zeiss: Carl Zeiss (Ikon) Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Pancolar Electric 50/1.8 MC, CZJ Biotar 58/2 T, CZJ Sonnar MC S 135/3.5
Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
Pentacon/Meyer: Pentacon 29/2.8 MC, Pentacon 50/1.8 MC Electric, Meyer G�rlitz Oreston 50/1.8, Meyer G�rlitz Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 200/4
Nikkor AF
50/1.8 D, 60/2.8 Micro, 55-200/4-5.6 G VR, 70-300/4-5.6 ED, 18-70/3.5-4.5 G
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Nikkor 105/1.8, Nikkor 135/2
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Hari
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
SOLD to guatipen
Thanks for a quick transaction Andres!
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Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
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Hari
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
| larsr wrote: |
Is this the 10- or 17-blade version?
(I have heard of 12-blade versions as well, but haven't actually seen one) |
Hey Larsr!
This is the 10 bladed version
I have a few more Biotars (58/2 with 'T' and without) and they're also 10 bladed ninjas
I think Vilhelm sold a 12 blader or a 17 blader a few weeks ago on ebay
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Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
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no-X
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Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
| larsr wrote: |
Is this the 10- or 17-blade version?
(I have heard of 12-blade versions as well, but haven't actually seen one) |
This is the last model with semi-automatic aperture. It can be recognized by the bumpy aperture ring. This model has always 10 blades. It also features newer coating and because of that there was only one version (previous models were mostly available in two versions: T or without T).
Pre-set model (serrated aperture ring, bumpy focusing ring) have 12 or 10 aperture blades. The earlier model (I think it was designed fot Contax D) has always T + 12 blades. The later pre-set models have always 10 blades and T was optional. T-model had high-end coating (80%+), while non-T model had standard coating.
Post-was manual model (small one, both rings are serrated) had always 17 aperture blades and T (80%+). It can be silver or balck.
War-time manual model (not available in M42 mount) was manufactured in T-version (80%+), while non-T version was uncoated. I think the war and pre-war biotars have 8 aperture blades (at least my non-T biotar has)
hope this helps 
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Hari
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Hari wrote:
Riiiiiight
Title rightfully extended: guru of Helios + Biotars
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Analogue Rangefinders: Leica M5, Leica M6 Titanium classic 0.72, Leica M7 0.58, Leica M7 0.85
Digital Rangefinder: Leica M9, Leica Monochrom, Leica M240
SLR: Leica R3 electronic, Canon AE1P
DSLR: Canon 5D MK2
M mount Lenses: Super-Wide Heliar 15/f4.5 ASPH. + Leica 24/f3.8 ASPH + Leica 28/f2 ASPH. + Leica 35/f1.4 ASPH. FLE + Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 + Leica Noctilux 50/f1 + Canon 50/f1.2 LTM + Leica 50/f1.4 ASPH. + Leica 50/f1.5 + Zeiss ZM Sonnar 50/f1.5 + Leica APO Summicron 50/f2 + Leica Summitar 50/f2 + Leica Rigid Summicron 50/f2 + Zeiss ZM Planar 50/f2 + Leica 50/f2.8 E39 + Leica 75/f1.4 + Leica APO 75/f2 ASPH. + Voigtlander 75/f2.5 + Leica Summarex 85/f1.5 + Leica APO 90/f2 ASPH. + Leica 90/f2 E55 + Leica 90/f2.8 + Leica APO 135/f3.4
Leica R mount Lenses: Leica-R 60/2.8 E55 + Leica-R 80/1.4 E67 + Leica-R 180/4
EF mount Lenses: Canon 50/1.8 II
M42 mount Lenses: Too many
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guatipen
Joined: 27 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: wonderful |
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guatipen wrote:
wonderful explanation NO-x..!!
I actually bought the biotar to hari because i'm very curious to compare it with a helios 44 M39 13 blades version....which it's a very sharp lens at f2....
Then there is no biotar with 13 blades...? only 12 or 17.... the russian copy is unique...
then NO-X which is for you the best biotar version? |
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no-X
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Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
yes...
Helios lenses:
6-blades (auto-aperture models like 44M-4,5,6, 77M, 77M-4 etc.)
8-blades (black pre-set models like 44-2 and 44-3, late silver models and 44M)
13-blades (early silver models)
Biotars:
8-blades: (pre-)war manual model
10-blades: late pre-set model and semi-auto model
12-blades: early pre-set model for Contax D
17-blades post-war manual model
I personaly keep 12-bladed T biotar (pre-set for Contax D) and 17-bladed T biotar (manual). But biotars are quite constant in terms of quality control, so I can say that some specific model is sharper in general. I keep these two because they are priced the most 
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guatipen
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: ok |
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guatipen wrote:
ok friend ..
crystal clear...
thanks for the list... |
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