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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: Auto Chinon 50mm F/1.7 |
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fatdeeman wrote:
This is a great little lens imho!
It can be had for a low price and performs pretty well even on my Panny G1 with it's tiny pixels. I have found it to be quite sharp wide open with nice colours and contrast, even the bokeh is nice most of the time but it can be a little hard edged.
All these snaps are wide open:
a quickr pickr post _________________ - Dave
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Excelent center !!!!
Very, very nice pics. Good colors, good contrast. I like them.
Congrats. Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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JohnBee
Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 179
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: |
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JohnBee wrote:
Well there's no disputing it's W.O. sharpness and colors(though rarely an issue anyways). Though the bokeh is a little on the harsh side for my tastes.
But definitely above average sharpness W.O! |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
great results wide open, nice samples, I found colors quite off _________________ T* |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:17 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Another very competant lens from Chinon Your images are excellent! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Poolhall
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 1296
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Must give mine a go now is this one K-mount like mine or m42 ? |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
A typical Chinon look to this lens. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
The white balance and/or hue seems to be off-target in several shots. No disputing detail is great, but the bokeh is quite rough - it should improve stopped down though (being a fast 50mm). _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180 |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
When a Chinon, it was made by Tomioka? Must it say tomioka always?
_________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
To be brutally honest, I don't think this lens has any special qualities - it's no worse and no better than many other kit lenses supplied with medium quality cameras in the 70s. I know it's cheap, but I think it's wiser to save up your money and buy a better quality Takumar/Pancolar/Nikkor/Zuiko etc. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
francotirador wrote: |
When a Chinon, it was made by Tomioka? Must it say tomioka always?
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No, I think only the ones labelled 'Tomioka' can be proved as Tomioka lenses, although there was an identical looking 55/1.4 sold both with an without the Tomioka name alongside the Chinon name. This arguement is still ongoing _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
Poolhall wrote: |
Must give mine a go now is this one K-mount like mine or m42 ? |
PK mount _________________ - Dave
www.lensporn.net
www.flickr.com/photos/fatdeeman/
DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
To be brutally honest, I don't think this lens has any special qualities - it's no worse and no better than many other kit lenses supplied with medium quality cameras in the 70s. I know it's cheap, but I think it's wiser to save up your money and buy a better quality Takumar/Pancolar/Nikkor/Zuiko etc. |
I have plenty of better quality lenses, I just get bored of only using the best lenses all the time, I rather give everything a try at least once. If ultimate quality was my only aim I probably wouldn't be using manual lenses in the first place unless they were contemporary Zeiss. I would probably be using Canon L or the like.
I suppose everybody has different standards and aims but I just enjoy putting old lenses that predate the DSLR era by decades on my cam and getting decent results, the fact that it works at all gives me enough enjoyment. _________________ - Dave
www.lensporn.net
www.flickr.com/photos/fatdeeman/
DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
Esox lucius wrote: |
The white balance and/or hue seems to be off-target in several shots. No disputing detail is great, but the bokeh is quite rough - it should improve stopped down though (being a fast 50mm). |
I've checked the white balance and nothing seems amiss, I have noticed this lens has a kind of colour cast to all the pictures it takes but I didn't want to correct it as I see it as a quirk of the lens. _________________ - Dave
www.lensporn.net
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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Poolhall
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 1296
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Poolhall wrote:
Cheers, will give mine a go, it will make a change from all my Russian things, though I have tried it with a Panagor macro converter and got some decent results already |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
fatdeeman wrote: |
peterqd wrote: |
To be brutally honest, I don't think this lens has any special qualities - it's no worse and no better than many other kit lenses supplied with medium quality cameras in the 70s. I know it's cheap, but I think it's wiser to save up your money and buy a better quality Takumar/Pancolar/Nikkor/Zuiko etc. |
I have plenty of better quality lenses, I just get bored of only using the best lenses all the time, I rather give everything a try at least once. If ultimate quality was my only aim I probably wouldn't be using manual lenses in the first place unless they were contemporary Zeiss. I would probably be using Canon L or the like.
I suppose everybody has different standards and aims but I just enjoy putting old lenses that predate the DSLR era by decades on my cam and getting decent results, the fact that it works at all gives me enough enjoyment. |
Yes, I understand your thinking. It's just that I have several lenses like that which get left on the shelf when I'm packing my bag. They're just taking up space. I only keep the Chinon 1.7/50 because it pairs with the CM-3, which I do like using. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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