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gcrimmins
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Moscow, Idaho, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: Fisheye converter question |
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gcrimmins wrote:
I'm looking for information about the 0.15x fisheye lens converters that used to be sold by Spiratone and others. Does anyone know if they result in a true 180-degree circular fisheye image? I need to shoot such images, and the Peleng or Samyang 8mm lenses are out of my price range at the moment. Thanks,
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 569
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Fisheye converter question |
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PBFACTS wrote:
gcrimmins wrote: |
I'm looking for information about the 0.15x fisheye lens converters that used to be sold by Spiratone and others. Does anyone know if they result in a true 180-degree circular fisheye image? I need to shoot such images, and the Peleng or Samyang 8mm lenses are out of my price range at the moment. Thanks,
--Geoff |
1- Yes this give a true 180° circular image with a 50mm (23or 24mm round image)
2- With a 100mm this give a full image 100*.15 = 15mm (full frame fisheye)
3- Image quality VERY good but CA VERY VERY high _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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Anu
Joined: 14 Apr 2009 Posts: 879
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Fisheye converter question |
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Anu wrote:
PBFACTS wrote: |
Image quality VERY good but CA VERY VERY high |
Yes, the center IQ is very nice. CA is extreme - maxing both correction sliders in Lightroom is almost enough |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
I'm not familiar with the Spiratone adapters, but I use a "Kenko FISH-EYE 180" adapter. It is about 85mm long, 60mm diameter, weighs 250g and comes with adapters for 49mm and 58mm threads. I mount it on a SMC Pentax-M zoom, 40-80mm f/2.8-4, on my Pentax K20D. It produces a full 180 degree fisheye image with the zoom at ~43mm. On a full-frame camera, it produces a full circle with the zoom at ~55mm, or with the Helios-44M 58mm lens. Mounted on the 40-80, the whole weighs 540g and is about 165mm long. Quite a piece of work!
The Kenko has an interlocked two ring f-stop system, one to set the focal length of the host lens, the other showing the effective f-stop you can set -- at 40mm, that's f/4.5-19. For maximum sharpness, a small aperture and tripod are definitely required. The image circle can be adjusted by zooming in -- with the 40-80 at 80mm, the image fills the K20D's frame with a view similar to my DA 10-17 fisheye at 12mm, maybe ~150 degrees.
Exposure isn't difficult when producing a full-circle image, at least with my setup. The PK-M-type zoom forces the K20D's metering to be center-weighted, which still reads the black areas outside the circle. It's best to go +3 EV or so, depending on light. The image circle is not sharp-edged, but slightly fuzzy as it fades in quickly to rather good sharpness. If the host lens' aperture is stopped down at all, its aperture blades become visible and shape the image (no longer a circle).
I bought the Kenko in a camera shop in Arizona last year for US$80. It's available online for less -- I see one on eBay right now for about US$50, for 49mm thread only. If you seek edge-to-edge sharpness, this adapter isn't for you. If you can live with the edge softness, it's fun. Note that the costlier Peleng and Samyang 8mm lenses do NOT provide a full circle on an APS-C sensor. You would need a ~6mm prime for that. And the Peleng's edges are about as fuzzy as the Kenko's, judging from the pics I see online. The Kenko is probably equivalent to the Spiratone you asked about, and both are likely much sharper than modern cheap adapters. I hope this helps you. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
I'm thinking about and when I watch a pic taken with a fisheye lens I don't remember to have looked for sharpness at borders.
The effect have my total attention. The central image is all that I pay attention to.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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aniramca
Joined: 02 Jun 2009 Posts: 66 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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aniramca wrote:
I have a Soligor fish-eye converter. It works OK for me
Here are some samples
(a) Photo taken with the converter
(b) Cropped photo of (a)
(c) Another sample
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justtorchit
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 269 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: |
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justtorchit wrote:
I have had the kenko, spiratone, and panagor auxiliary fisheyes. Of them, the kenko has been the best and the spiratone was the worst. For some reason the spiratone had a big issue with flair and images were also often plagued with a light bluish/low contrast haze nearest the center (this may have been some hazing in the elements or something though). Either way, they have provided me an excellent, cost effective intro into the world of fisheye! I have used them mostly on a Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E lens using a step ring.
The ultimate look is completely dependent on two variables, the base lens size and the sensor/film plane size. On an APS-C sized sensor, the 50mm looks like this:
And on a Full Frame sensor:
I did a blog write up on these if you are interested. I love 'em! _________________ David
www.davidkovaluk.com - personal website
www.instagram.com/davidkovaluk
http://makingnottaking.blogspot.com/ - photoblog |
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Mike Deep
Joined: 25 Oct 2008 Posts: 323 Location: Upstate New York
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Mike Deep wrote:
Mine is a Kenko. I found it in a local shop, and since neither the store owner or myself knew what the heck it was exactly, he let it go for $5.
I haven't been impressed with its image quality, but it's fun to play with.
_________________ Rocket Launch Photography
Olympus: 24/2.8 MC, 28/3.5, 28/2.8 MC, 35/2.8, 50/3.5, 50/1.8 MC, 50/1.4 MC, 35-70/3.6, 75-150/4
Nikon: C 24/2.8, AI-S 28/2.8, K 35/2, K 35/2.8, F 55/3.5, C 55/1.2, AI 85/2, 105/2.5 (5/3), 105/2.5 (5/4), F 135/2.8, F 200/4, No. 5T
Pentax: 28/3.5, 35/3.5, 50/1.4 (8/6), 50/1.4 (7/6), M 50/1.4, SMC 55/1.8, 105/2.8, SMC 135/3.5, 150/4
Tamron: SP 17/3.5 151B, 28/2.5, 135/2.8 T-135, SP 300/2.8 60B, SP 35-80/2.8-3.8 01A, 80-210/3.8-4 103A, SP 1.4x TC 140F, SP 2x TC 01F
Vivitar: 24/2 (Kino), 28/2 (Kino), 50/1.4 (Cosina), S1 90/2.5 (Tokina), S1 28-80/2.8-3.5 (Kino), 70-150/3.8 (Kino), S1 70-210/3.5 (Kino), 2x Macro TC
Etc: Yashica 3.5cm/2.8, Fujinon 50/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, Mamiya/Sekor 55/1.7, Sigma 90/2.8
That's a lot of 50s. |
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josedad
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: Epoque 0.56 |
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josedad wrote:
I was lucky when I found a pristine used one of EPOQUE 0.56 DCL-20 Wide AngleUnderwater Conversion Lens for 15$. I bought it from local flea market in Jakarta.
I was surprised with the result I got. I use it on my 18-55mm II from canon 350d. I shot with Canon 500d. Here is some result and I post process it with lens correction software, PT lens and adobe lightroom.
bigger size
complete shot with other manual lens here h++p://www.flickr.com/photos/45231959@N02/ |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
Expire: 2011-11-18
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Epoque 0.56 |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
josedad wrote: |
I was lucky when I found a pristine used one of EPOQUE 0.56 DCL-20 Wide AngleUnderwater Conversion Lens for 15$. I bought it from local flea market in Jakarta.
I was surprised with the result I got. I use it on my 18-55mm II from canon 350d. I shot with Canon 500d. Here is some result and I post process it with lens correction software, PT lens and adobe lightroom.
bigger size
complete shot with other manual lens here h++p://www.flickr.com/photos/45231959@N02/ |
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josedad
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Posts: 15 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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josedad wrote:
thank you F16SUNSHINE |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Welcome to the forum Jose.
First photo post needs to be quoted. It's a spam protection.
Please post freely now. Enjoy your stay.
Cheers
Andy _________________ Moderator |
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