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koulosb
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject: MF macro lens for olympus digital |
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koulosb wrote:
Hi I'm Vagelis from Greece....
I have an olympus e-520 and I'm searching for a cheap (under 100 euro) old manual focus macro lens.
I searched ebay and i found 2 cheap lenses....1) olympus OM 28 f/2.8 macro
and 2) Tamron 90 f/2.5 MF macro
I'm also searching for a cheap MF lense for portraits if you have something in mind.
Thank you.... |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
welcome koulosb
the Tamron 90 f/2.5 is one of the best portrait lens
on 2x crop = 180mm is maybe a little long _________________ T* |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
All ~50mm macro lens from good brands like Nikon, Minolta etc are cheap and you can mount on Olympus. I am Olympus user too, my favorite cheap macro lenses : Olympus OM 50mm f3.5 (it has incredible accurate red , which is quiet unique compare with others) Nikon 55mm f3.5 NON-AI one of the cheapest stunning lens. Volna-9 from Russians also an excellent one. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
If you search carefully you can find nice macro lenses
like micro nikkor 55mm both 3.5 and 2.8 for around 100$
Volna-9 50mm also
Panagor/Vivitar 55mm/2.8 (or some other brand under which name this lens came) _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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koulosb
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
I found also takumar asahi 50 f/4 , yashica 60 f/2.8 and yashica 55 f/4.
Does anyone test the olympus 28 f/2.8? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
koulosb wrote: |
I found also takumar asahi 50 f/4 , yashica 60 f/2.8 and yashica 55 f/4.
Does anyone test the olympus 28 f/2.8? |
Are you sure that is real macro lens ? I am afraid not just a simple Japanese noname lens with Olympus mount and labeled "macro"
Olympus made wide macro lenses for below like this
http://www.alanwood.net/photography/olympus/macro-lens-38-28.html _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koulosb
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
I'm not looling only for olympus label.....
I just want a cheap old MF macro lense for my oly e-520 |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
koulosb wrote: |
I found also takumar asahi 50 f/4 , yashica 60 f/2.8 and yashica 55 f/4.
Does anyone test the olympus 28 f/2.8? |
macro takumar is also nice lens, but it has two versions, older preset that goes to 1:1 magnification ,and newer that goes to 1:2
that olympus 28mm is probably a close focus lens not dedicated macro lens _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
koulosb wrote: |
I'm not looling only for olympus label.....
I just want a cheap old MF macro lense for my oly e-520 |
I know. This is a reason why I said before. I am unsure that is an Olympus lens and real macro lens in this focal length. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koulosb
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
Thank you.... i'll search for micro nikkor 55mm both 3.5 and 2.8 and Volna-9 50mm. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
koulosb wrote: |
Thank you.... i'll search for micro nikkor 55mm both 3.5 and 2.8 and Volna-9 50mm. |
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/top_lenses/macro/
You can see samples from those what I found to top lenses. Some of them really cheap like Nikkor 55mm f3.5 NON-AI. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koulosb
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
Ok....With your help i found 5 cheap lenses and i want to ask which one to buy?
1)micro nikkor 55 f2.8
2)Volna -9 50 f2.8 macro
3)vivitar 28-90 f2.8 macro
4)Takumar Asahi 50 f4 macro
5)Tamron SP Adptall 90 f2 macro
Thank you.... |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
koulosb wrote: |
Ok....With your help i found 5 cheap lenses and i want to ask which one to buy?
1)micro nikkor 55 f2.8 |
great lens but 3.5 version also has been getting great praise on this forum
koulosb wrote: |
2)Volna -9 50 f2.8 macro |
also quality lens, russian made, very sturdy, also you could try getting Industar 61 L/Z that is very sharp lens that can be used as macro lens and is cheaper than Volna
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3)vivitar 28-90 f2.8 macro |
don't have this lens, but if you want a zoom that can do macro i can recommend Tokina AT-X 50-250mm that has macro mode that goes to 1:1,4 magnification
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4)Takumar Asahi 50 f4 macro |
nice lens that has two or three versions, with oldest (the preset one goes to 1:1 magnification) rest are 1:2, just be sure to get the one with A/M switch so you can use it in manual mode and stop it down
koulosb wrote: |
5)Tamron SP Adptall 90 f2 macro |
beware that there are two versions of this lens with older one going to 1:1 and newer 1:2 (somebody correct me if i'm mistaken)
All in all , all those primes are nice lenses and you won't miss with any of them, whichever you choose to buy _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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koulosb
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
Thank you... |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Take any what you find first , all just good one. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koulosb
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
Hi again....
I buy the vivitar 55 f/2.8 macro and it's a great lens but a have one problem.... when i want larger f than 2.8 my camera doesn't see it.
I change the f from the lens but nothing.
I see the hole inside the lens and it close when i change the f, so the lens is working.
Do you have any idea?
I use a olympus e-520 camera. |
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Hi
f2.8 is the LARGEST aperture (i.e. the 'biggest' hole for the light to get through), f3.5, 4.x, 5.x etc. are the smaller apertures. As the lens in question is a f2.8 then your camera couldn't see it any 'smaller' if by smaller you mean f2, f.14 of course which are in fact smaller numbers but larger apertures...
If you mean that the thing is not 'seen' as a smaller aperture at f3.5 4.x or whatever then two possibilities spring to mind. Are you actually expecting the camera to register the aperture in the viewfinder?
The Olympus digital SLR camera has no way of knowing what aperture the lens is set at as the coupling of the lens is mechanical, not electrical, so the camera relies upon you setting the aperture on the lens itself (which won't show in the viewfinder) and then in aperture priority the camera will measure the light coming through 'in real time' and set the shutter accordingly..
I focus at maximum (here f2.8 ) aperture then have to shut down the lens by hand to my chosen aperture, and wait whilst the camera calculates the exposure then selects its chosen shutter speed and fires.. I COULD focus the lens shut down to my chosen aperture but often this is too dark to focus properly, and if one relies on split image focus screens then when using tele-zooms or long focal length prime lenses, the phenomenon of 'darkening' can happen, where one half of the split image area turns black making focus impossible to achieve.
If you fit your manual lens - Oly adapter with a focus confirm chip then the camera itself will tell you when focus is achieved... but in my experience these too like a decent amount of light! It's for this reason (and that it had live view when most didn't) that I chose the Panasonic L-1 rather than the Oly, as the Panasonic's focus confirm works WITHOUT a 'chipped' adapter!
The other is that the lens has the ability to be 'hard set' at a particular aperture (for cameras that used a mechanical connection) and did their metering using this 'set' position (often marked AE or just AA on the aperture ring) before shutting down when the exposure actually occurred...?
Hope this helps?
Doug
koulosb wrote: |
Hi again....
I buy the vivitar 55 f/2.8 macro and it's a great lens but a have one problem.... when i want larger f than 2.8 my camera doesn't see it.
I change the f from the lens but nothing.
I see the hole inside the lens and it close when i change the f, so the lens is working.
Do you have any idea?
I use a olympus e-520 camera. |
_________________ Lenses and cameras:
Amateurs worry about equipment
Pros worry about money,
Masters worry about light. |
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koulosb
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
Sorry i mean smaller apertures....
At the problem now.... i know that the camera can't tell the number of f.
The story is that the camera can not calculates the exposure when i change apertures....
I think that is the adapter but i can't test it.... the lens is minolta MD mount. |
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Hmm to what camera are you attaching it? If it is an e-300 or e-30 Olympus the aperture pin / lever fouls the body so the aperture never closes it just cuts a hole in the camera.. You can shave .3mm off the pin or use an E-1 E-3 or any of the 400 500 and 600 Olympus bodies.. No idea what they are like on an EOS..
So more details, please?
Doug
koulosb wrote: |
Sorry i mean smaller apertures....
At the problem now.... i know that the camera can't tell the number of f.
The story is that the camera can not calculates the exposure when i change apertures....
I think that is the adapter but i can't test it.... the lens is minolta MD mount. |
_________________ Lenses and cameras:
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Masters worry about light. |
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koulosb
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
It's a olympus e-520 and i use a minolta MD to 4/3 adapter.
The lens is MD mount. |
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nemesis101
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Should be no problem.. I use a similar adapter on my E-1 with great success.. I'd also recommend the Minolta f3.5 50mm lens which is effectively a 100mm lens on the 520.. I got mine for 7 dollars and that included the case and the extension to give true 1:1 as well!
Doug.
koulosb wrote: |
It's a olympus e-520 and i use a Minolta MD to 4/3 adapter.
The lens is MD mount. |
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koulosb
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
So what do you think is the problem with mine?
Maybe the lens if it's not the adapter? |
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nemesis101
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Hard to tell at a distance.. can you borrow a lens from anyone to determine where the problem is? I suspect that's the solution?
Doug
koulosb wrote: |
So what do you think is the problem with mine?
Maybe the lens if it's not the adapter? |
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koulosb
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:15 am Post subject: |
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koulosb wrote:
I will test the adapter with another minolta lens and i will test the lens on a minolta slr camera.... so i see if is the lens or the adapter the problem...
All the adapters that sells on ebay it's the same model.... so it will be difficult to choose wich will solve the problem...!!! |
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