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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: Purple People Eater |
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woodrim wrote:
Anyone else here old enough to remember that song?
I do not understand what causes purple fringing, but I do know that I don't like it. I've read that coatings control it. Are there filters that can help?
I like this lens for everything except the purple. Seen here wide open at f/3
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Woodrim
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Outdoors in bright sunshine, I've found UV filters to help longer lenses. However, in the main you're pretty much stuffed and will need to use pp in photoshop or such like. A real pain. _________________ Graham - Moderator
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
What method using PS? Need other software or plugin? _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I find reducing the saturation of the offending colour usually enough. If it's a small area, I just use the sponge tool to carefully desaturate. Otherwise there's the replace colour tool. There's probably many other ways too, but I never had success using the tool in Adobe Camera Raw. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Purple fringing is caused by axial form of chromatic aberration. There are two main sources:
1. the lens - optical design (APO/superachromatic corrections helps)
2. microlenses on digital sensor (independently on lens used)
There are some mentions all over the net, that purple fringing is caused by sensor blooming. That is not true - sensor blooming affects the entire spectrum, not only its purple part. Sensor blooming can cause the purple fringing to be more visible, but doesn't create it. _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
After asking the question, I Googled it and came up with this...
http://www.great-landscape-photography.com/remove-purple-fringing.html Actually works pretty well. Now I'm left with ghosting, but that goes away at f/4, so f/4 is probably where lens needs to be used as wide open.
Here is now processed and sharpened image...
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Woodrim
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Martin is correct, and the method of purple fringe removal you have used is the same, and is the best way IMO.
You can fill the white area left over, if you really want to, by using a small clone stamp. It's still a pain in the backside problem though, and I'm sure a lot of it is caused by the DSLR sensors, but heh ho! Modern AF lenses suffer the same problems and stopping down using sorts it. _________________ Graham - Moderator
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater ...
yes, you could say i remember that novelty song. i was in elementary school, maybe seventh grade. _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Well, fish..., you got it!!! And it seems you have a few years on me. I was in maybe 1st grade in 1958 when it came out. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Shooting into light like that would cause a problem on many lenses. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Shooting into light like that would cause a problem on many lenses. |
Yes, and a fast lens boost this problem a lot, especially in f1.2...
Regards
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Stopped down to f/8 is a very sharp lens and fringing pretty well controlled. This is the Vivitar 200mm Series 1. Note the dog chewy bone and crumbs on floor
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Woodrim
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
last one much better.
as for the song, i was off by several years. i would have been in the second grade in 1958, so i only have a year on you. _________________ Paul
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Just as an update, I've played some more with the procedure for removing the purple fringing. I used the method outlined in the link I posted earlier. However, I have found that it work better with a combination of the saturation and lightness slider, reducing the saturation first, then lowering the lightness. I'm actually quite amazed at how well it works.
Hey fish, those were the days. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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egidio
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 222 Location: slovenia
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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egidio wrote:
adobe bridge has "defringe" button, and I'm sure lightroom and aperture has this too, but I havent tested _________________ I use: Flektogon 2.8/20, Flektogon 2.8/35, planar 50mm/1.4, Takumar 1.4/50mm, Takumar 1.9/85, MIR 24H, Mir1v, Industar-50-2, Helios-44-2, Pentacon 2.8/135, cyclop 85 1.5 |
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
Can you please resize ? my screen is only 17 inches _________________ Happy owner and user of :
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Done. Had large size so the fringing could be easily seen. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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