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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: Canon EOS Film Cameras? |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Does anyone have one?
I'm thinking of investing in a newer film body that I can use my lenses on (both EF & M42). Needs to have a good viewfinder for MFing.
As for budget, I guess 100gbp or less. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11010 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Subscribed, interested in responses!
I'm thinking an EOS3 will replace my cheap Rebel K2 (plastic lens mount) some day. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Canon EOS Film Cameras? |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Does anyone have one?
I'm thinking of investing in a newer film body that I can use my lenses on (both EF & M42). Needs to have a good viewfinder for MFing.
As for budget, I guess 100gbp or less. |
Yes. I have one, an EOS 300V. It cost me 25 euro, in virtually new condition.
The 300V has a good viewfinder. A relative small magnification factor, but it is bright enough. Smaller and brighter than the Spotmatic, for instance. Since I wear glasses, that is good. Without glasses, the Spotmatic viewfinder is probably better (larger).
I should add that the Canon EF 50/1.8 is almost permanently attached to this cam. It is a nice, light and small combination. Otherwise, I use my Tokina 20-35, which also is a good lens. _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
EOS 300 hits mirror, at least Mir-1B. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
kansalliskala wrote: |
EOS 300 hits mirror, at least Mir-1B. |
Oh, that is an important point to think about indeed.
Something else; the EOS cameras don't work without a battery. _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
Yes I have an EOS 1, and EOS 10, and my wife uses a newer EOS that I can't think of the model at the moment. They are great . . however . .they suffer similar mirror interferance with certain lenses.
All of mine have no issues except a Biotar 58mm. They are pretty cheap!
Highly recommended
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
siriusdogstar wrote: |
Subscribed, interested in responses!
I'm thinking an EOS3 will replace my cheap Rebel K2 (plastic lens mount) some day. |
May be lucky if your budget is the same as mine. I see it's the type that sets the focus point with the eye. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Martin, this is something to consider if you're worried about the mirror issue. This is an APS film camera with a smaller mirror like the DSLRs. The viewfinder is about the same as the 400D, so not good, but the camera is very compact and quite advanced, with P, Av, Tv and manual modes and of course, motor drive. It can mount EF lenses if you want to use them, but strangely not EF-S lenses.
I got it specifically to take pics as I'm riding my pushbike, using the remote release. Cost £11. I built a handlebar mount for it but it needs to be stiffer, most of them so far have been shaky!
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I have an EOS ELan IIe, which I consider to be a very capable 35mm camera. The II series can be bought for dirt cheap on eBay. Recently I sold an Elan II on eBay that used to be my mother's. I know for a fact that she probably hadn't put 10 rolls of film through that camera, and mentioned this in the auction description. It sold for $10US, including the manual and a body cap. How depressing. So yeah, an Elan II or IIe is a great deal, and a good camera to boot. _________________ Michael
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Peter - The 400D cannot focus at wider than F4 so if the screen is like that then it's not an option for fast lenses. If I can get one cheaply enough it may be worth trying it and seeing how much I use my AF lenses. I only have one APS-C and I know it won't work on a 35mm body.
Michael - I assume the Elan is in the same range as the camera Peter has, so I guess it has a small viewfinder. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: EOS galore |
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nemesis101 wrote:
I started my autofocus collection with an EOS 650 which was new back in the mid 1980's, then a 630 (faster and very full featured and tank like) then an EOS Ell and EOS A2E a Rebel Ti (loads of features but the solidity of a cornflake box) and now the mighty EOS 1-N RS with the fixed mirror and awesome abilities...
I also have the EOS IX which produces nice pics using the 50mm f1.8 prime but sadly APS is only available now in a limited range and it's problematic to get developed in a lot of places..
Doug.
Oddly I no longer have a Canon DSLR which was what I go to use all the lenses from the film bodies.. I am mainly Panasonic, Olympus and Pentax lol _________________ Lenses and cameras:
Amateurs worry about equipment
Pros worry about money,
Masters worry about light.
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soikka
Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 534 Location: Finland
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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soikka wrote:
I have only experience with EOS650.
Not recommended for MF-work. Other how pretty decent camera with couple common faults due shutter support rubber aging etc., but the ligthmeter and the controls leave a lot to be desired. However it's still an impressive camera for the first AF-EOS. _________________ DSLR: K-5,K20d+Grip, Ist*Ds
Film: MZ-5n, LX, MX+winder, SuperA+winder, ME Super,
M-series: 28/2.8, 35/2, 40/2.8, 135/3.5, 75-150/4, A-series: 50/1.7, Super-Taks: 55/1.8, 105/2.8, S-M-C Taks: 28/3.5, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, Sigma SW2 24/2.8, Tamron SPs: 90/2.5(I), 180/2.5, 500/8, Rikenon XR 35-70/3.5, Cosinon 40/2.5, F-1.7x AF-adapter, Olympus XA |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:41 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
The first film EOS I had was a 500. Good cam, but a lot of plastic and high energy consumption.
Then I bought a 50e from Orio. Great cam! Unfortunately, it quickly stopped to work with manual lenses and shortly after stopped to work at all.
Now I have a 300 which is a very nice cam, small and lightweight.
But the best "EOS" for manual lenses is the EF/M which is not really an EOS cam since it does not offer AF. But it has a great matte screen and viewfinder, as it was developed for manual focusing.
I have got one and I will definitely keep it! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Mal1905
Joined: 30 Oct 2008 Posts: 1705 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
I have a number of EOS 35mm cameras from down through the years, but hadn't thought of using them with MF lenses - going to remedy that at the weekend! _________________
Canon EOS 5D / EOS 40D
Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 2.8/35, Pancolar 2/50, MC 1.8/50, MC 1.8/80, Triotar 4/135, Tessar 2.8/50, S 4/135 1Q, S 3.5/135, Sonnar 3.5/135 MC, 2.8/180, Biotar 2/5,8cm, 2/58, 1.5/75
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 2/28 T*, 1.4/35 T*, Ultron 1.8/50, Tessar 2.8/50, Planar 1.4/50 T* MM, 1.7/50 T* MM, 1.4/85 T* AEG, Sonnar 2.8/135 T*
Asahi Optical Co.: Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 2.8/120, 2.5/135 I & II, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4/300, 5.6/400, 4/45-125, 4.5/85-210, Super-Takumar 4.5/20, 3.5/24, 3.5/28, 2/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 4/150, 4/200, 4.5/70-150, Fish-Eye-Takumar 4/17, Macro-Takumar 4/50, Super-Macro Takumar 4/50, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 4/50, 4/100, Bellows-Takumar 4/100, Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 3.5/50, 2.4/58, 3.5/100, Asahi-Kogaku Tele-Takumar 3.5/135, Auto-Takumar 2.3/35, 3.5/35, 1.8/55, 1.8/55 (Zebra), 2/55, 2.2/55, 1.8/85, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, Takumar 4/35, 2.2/55, 2/58, 2.8/105, 3.5/135, 3.5/200, 5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 5.6/200, 6.3/300, SMC Takumar 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 2/55, SMC-M 1.4/50, 1.7/50, 2/50
Tomioka: Tominon 2/5cm, Auto-Chinon 3.5/21, 1.4/55, Auto-Yashinon DS-M 1.2/55 |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
But the best "EOS" for manual lenses is the EF/M which is not really an EOS cam since it does not offer AF. But it has a great matte screen and viewfinder, as it was developed for manual focusing.
I have got one and I will definitely keep it! |
Thanks for this Carsten, I'd never heard of this camera before. I might give it a go _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
I still have an EOS 650 which works when it feels in the right mood. But focsing with it isn't easy with shorter focal lengths, and with manual lenses I can't get the metering to work properly. That might be to do with it's generally unpredicatable condition though.
I also have an EOS 1000n which works fine despite feeling like a heap of creaking plastic that wasn't glued together too well. But it's even harder to focus manually and I rarely use it. And never with manual lenses.
My own feeling is that the older and cheaper EOS film cameras simply aren't worthwhile for manual lens use. MF Canon bodies can be bought cheaply, or if you want to use other brand lenses, then MF Nikons, Yashicas etc are all available inexpensively. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
But the best "EOS" for manual lenses is the EF/M which is not really an EOS cam since it does not offer AF. But it has a great matte screen and viewfinder, as it was developed for manual focusing.
I have got one and I will definitely keep it! |
That's a pretty rare bird these days. Canon couldn't have sold very many of them. Apparently Canon introduced it to satisfy the needs of students whose instructors required mf cameras. _________________ Michael
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
But the best "EOS" for manual lenses is the EF/M which is not really an EOS cam since it does not offer AF. But it has a great matte screen and viewfinder, as it was developed for manual focusing.
I have got one and I will definitely keep it! |
Thanks for this Carsten, I'd never heard of this camera before. I might give it a go |
That's the one:
_________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Seeing there's a Tak attached to it I assume there's no mirror issue? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
Years ago I owned a Canon EOS 50E but sold it to fund my first digital SLR. Recently I purchased another one brand new from an eBay seller in Hong Kong for £70 incl shipping. When it arrived there was no import duty to pay either! Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Canon-EOS-50E-QD-Film-SLR-50E-50EQD-Brand-NEW_W0QQitemZ230403186973QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Photography_Film_Cameras_ET?hash=item35a519a11d
The same seller is selling them c/w battery pack for £90.
I wear glasses and have no problem focusing manual lenses with this camera. Also, it has a metal lens mount unlike the cheaper plastic models in their range. Highly recommended! _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Seeing there's a Tak attached to it I assume there's no mirror issue? |
Not that I have realized. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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eeyore_nl
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
My 300V has a metal lens mount as well. However, the body is simply plastic. _________________ Fujifilm X-Pro2 / Fujifilm X-T1 / some Sonnar & Takumar lenses |
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lulalake
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1191 Location: Near Austin Texas
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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lulalake wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
The first film EOS I had was a 500. Good cam, but a lot of plastic and high energy consumption.
Then I bought a 50e from Orio. Great cam! Unfortunately, it quickly stopped to work with manual lenses and shortly after stopped to work at all.
Now I have a 300 which is a very nice cam, small and lightweight.
But the best "EOS" for manual lenses is the EF/M which is not really an EOS cam since it does not offer AF. But it has a great matte screen and viewfinder, as it was developed for manual focusing.
I have got one and I will definitely keep it! |
I have a different version (US Version I think) is just the opposite. It's built like a tank, weighs a ton, metal body, and works very well.
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supahmario
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supahmario wrote:
i have a EOS30. i love it. and the mirror modification was pretty easy. _________________ EOS 5D, EOS 30
Leica-R: Summicron 2/50
QBM: Distagon 2.8/35
PK: Tokina 3.5/17, Porst 1.2/55
M42: S-M-C Takumar 3.5/24, S-M-C Takumar 1.8/55, CZJ MC Sonnar 3.5/135, Jupiter 21M 4/200
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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spleenone wrote:
My first film SLR was EOS 50E (ElanII) and I am very satisfied. Dreamed about 1V which can get from ebay for good price. Bright VF but not as large magnification as at manual slr. Mirror issues are awkward but I trying to learn with.
However this Canon camera provide enough functions for serious shooting so I still use it. Many times with manual glasses. |
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