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mo
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:55 am Post subject: Nikon LS2000 SCSII scanner |
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mo wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
Is this worth a look and can you get an adapter for the older connection? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
The SCSI interface (Small Computer System [or Standard] Interface) used to be THE high-speed data transfer rate interface for computers. It was also a standard largely independent of operating systems or hardware platforms. But its become somewhat outmoded anymore. And its real death-knell, which I feel is very short-sighted and downright stupid, is that M$ does not support it any longer. So if you're running Vista or Win7, you're basically out of luck with SCSI, as far as I've been able to determine. If you're running XP, you're still okay. But you should ask yourself, how much longer will you be running an XP machine before you upgrade?
Also, the LS-2000 provides "only" 2700 dpi, which is not really all that spectacular anymore. For sure, 2700 dpi will provide excellent scans of slides and film strips, but there are other products out there now that are competitive, and which do not require the apparently obsolete SCSI interface.
Honestly, I'm pretty ticked about this. I have several SCSI devices that are still perfectly usable, but won't be once I upgrade my system beyond XP. _________________ Michael
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks Michael
I have XP and yes I will upgrade soon enough. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
And its real death-knell, which I feel is very short-sighted and downright stupid, is that M$ does not support it any longer. So if you're running Vista or Win7, you're basically out of luck with SCSI, as far as I've been able to determine. |
Not quite. Vista and Win7 do not support installing themselves to controllers driven by a unsigned driver, which limits you to expensive new controllers if you want to use a SCSI disk to boot from, as there are no signed legacy drivers from Adaptec (it is just the installation, if you install to some SATA disk and clone to SCSI, the latter will boot, given hardware with a unsigned driver).
As far as SCSI in general is concerned, it is supported (provided that the manufacturer has not EOLed the card and ignores driver requests) - my 15yr old Adaptec 29160 still works (the more consumer priced AIC78xx based devices don't, but can be made to work with hacked Vista drivers). And the scanner itself will do in any case, with vuescan. Besides, Win7 allows you to virtualize XP, so that you can make do with hardware which only has XP drivers.
Given that the scanner achieves true 2500dpi, it is quite up to any current mid rank flatbed or bottom end slide scanner, and more comfortable to work with. If its price rises above a used Epson 4490, I'd however go for the latter... _________________ Sevo
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
Howdy.
Few months ago I came across an LS-30 which I passed on. Why? Michael summarized almost perfectly the situation. As the one offered at the attached link the one I was looking came with no SCSI card included. At the time I made my home work and did lot of research, I found out that not all the adapters will work together with this scanner, so one have to find one that is in the list that Nikon provided on their site to be sure. Apart from that seems that SCSI cards are nowadays obsolete items rare to find new, so a long research thru used market is foreseeable. Even if it can be found it'll be probably with no warranty. In the end even if one is lucky enough to be able to set up the HW , as Michael pointed out, the OS (Micro$oft at least) will probably not support it. My advice would be, avoid lots of frustration and look for something more recent with USB or IEEE-1394 interface. The Nikons from LS-4000 and ahead should meet the requirement.
Marty. _________________ Canon FD
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
How about USB- SCSII converters ? 2400 dpi is enough to me. _________________ -------------------------------
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
That's an option, Attila. Is to be seen how much she is inclined to mess with the drivers. Even if there is a working driver under XP and above how will this behave with the SCSI/USB adapter? It might work, or not. No way to predict. Is the trouble worth for such old machine?
Cheers, Marty. _________________ Canon FD
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
marty wrote: |
That's an option, Attila. Is to be seen how much she is inclined to mess with the drivers. Even if there is a working driver under XP and above how will this behave with the SCSI/USB adapter? It might work, or not. No way to predict. Is the trouble worth for such old machine?
Cheers, Marty. |
Yes, right. thanks! _________________ -------------------------------
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Thanks to all for some real thought and tips.It does sound like to much hassle...especially software side of things drivers etc.If I was a computer whiz yes worth the risk but I am not I will have patience till the next opportunity. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Look a used flat bed scanner like Epson V500 or similar they are not expensive usually and pretty capable ones. _________________ -------------------------------
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