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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: Wedding coming up. Help and advice needed |
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Big Dawg wrote:
My Granddaughter has tagged me to photograph her up coming wedding. I swore off weddings years ago as frustrating and not very good for my blood pressure but I cannot refuse her. I have a small collection of lens to choose from and am looking to buy and borrow a couple more. The ones I'll borrow are a Pentax FA 50 1:1.4 and a FA 31mm 1:1.8 Limited. The ones I'm looking to buy are a SMC Takumar 85mm 1:1.8 or a SMC-M 85mm 1:2 K mount. I have a Komine made Vivitar 105mm 1:2.5 Macro lens and a couple of 105mm Vivitar lenses plus about eight 135mm lens of many types. This along with my DA 18-55mm Kit lens and a host of Zoom lens. A 28-200mm Kobori made Vivitar comes to mind. Also all three of the first groups of Series one 70-210 models. I've so many choices I can't really decide. I mainly shoot flowers and birds and landscapes...I've done fairly well with individual portraits but I usually fail at group photos.
The reason I ask here is I truly have been so fortunate to find this forum and be accepted here even though I'm just a North Alabama Redneck with minimal skill and knowledge. You guys are all my mentors and teachers and your advice so far has been very worthwhile. Any and all help and advice will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
With the lenses I've mentioned what would you use and what would you buy to add to the mix? 300 dollar max on a purchase as I've already committed some funds towards the 85mm lenses. _________________ Big Dawg |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Take a film camera as a backup........anything important and I take two film SLRs and one film P&S. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
Take a film camera as a backup........anything important and I take two film SLRs and one film P&S. |
Though I will not take a Film camera...I will have a backup K10D and will capture to many 2 gig cards so they are not as subject to being lost. Also will back up them on sight by downloading to my laptop and burning to CD. Am I better off going RAW or Jpeg. Largest printed size will more than likely be 8X10. _________________ Big Dawg |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Big Dawg wrote: |
Excalibur wrote: |
Take a film camera as a backup........anything important and I take two film SLRs and one film P&S. |
Though I will not take a Film camera...I will have a backup K10D and will capture to many 2 gig cards so they are not as subject to being lost. Also will back up them on sight by downloading to my laptop and burning to CD. Am I better off going RAW or Jpeg. Largest printed size will more than likely be 8X10. |
Well I'm a film guy and have taken my friends wedding plus been to many in the congregation and find the main problem is low light in the church etc and contrasts esp of white dresses and black suits.
With IS or flash the official photographer solves that problem in low light..just the contrasts and of course a book or ideas from members on interesting ways to take a wedding......well there is always the photography equivalent of the "missionary position" _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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soikka
Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 534 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Wedding coming up. Help and advice needed |
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soikka wrote:
Well, let's see:
FA31/1.8
FA50/1.4
DA18-55
Series 1 70-210
105mm macro
I see no need for any lenses really. In my experience the 28-75 covers the usually needed FOV for weddings in a crop body. Sometimes you'll need to use a wide angle in addition. Of course this is a matter of shooting style also.
Flash is a must with K10d. Do you have one? Spend your money on that if you don't have one. _________________ DSLR: K-5,K20d+Grip, Ist*Ds
Film: MZ-5n, LX, MX+winder, SuperA+winder, ME Super,
M-series: 28/2.8, 35/2, 40/2.8, 135/3.5, 75-150/4, A-series: 50/1.7, Super-Taks: 55/1.8, 105/2.8, S-M-C Taks: 28/3.5, 50/1.4, 85/1.8, Sigma SW2 24/2.8, Tamron SPs: 90/2.5(I), 180/2.5, 500/8, Rikenon XR 35-70/3.5, Cosinon 40/2.5, F-1.7x AF-adapter, Olympus XA |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
8 x 10 ?
Well. My options:
1- FA 1,8/31
2- vivitar series 1 70-210
3- Vivitar 105mm 1:2.5 Macro (for very close up images).
Be safe, calm and lightest possible (although with great purse).
The better for you (and for your granddaughter).
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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CarbonR
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 1969 Location: Clermont-Ferrand, France
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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CarbonR wrote:
I covered my first and only one weeding with a S-M-C Tak 35/2, and S-M-C 24/3.5 for larger views,, that's all, no flash. I'd suggest to only use gears you know for months or years. It allows you to - know what the lens will give you in any situation - eliminate the stress due to new gear you don't know how to correctly use _________________ Cameras : Canon 5D, Pentax K100D, Pentax 6x7, Spotmatic
Lenses : 15mm to 1000mm (24x36)
My websites : [FR & ENG]Takumar - the eyes of the Spotmatic : info about all Takumar lenses // Kogaku - My photo site
I am selling : Takumar lenses and rare Pentax bodies, pm me if you're interested in something [MFLenses feed-back]
Information on Takumar lenses with samples :
Wide angle : Takumar 15/3.5 15mm, Takumar 17/4 17mm, Takumar 18/11 18mm, Takumar 20/4.5 20mm, Takumar 24/3.5 24mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V1 28mm, Takumar 28/3.5 V2 28mm, Takumar 35/2 V1 35mm, Takumar 35/2 V2 35mm, Takumar 35/2.3 35mm, Takumar 35/3.5 35mm, Takumar 35/4 35mm
Standard : Takumar 50/1.4 V1 50mm, Takumar 50/1.4 V2 50mm, Takumar 50/3.5 50mm, Takumar 50/4 50mm, Takumar 55/2 55/1.8 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V1 55mm, Takumar 55/2.2 V2 55mm, Takumar 58/2 58mm, Takumar 58/2.4 58mm
Short tele : Takumar 83/1.9 83mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85/1.9 85mm, Takumar 85/1.8 85mm, Takumar 100/2 100mm, Takumar 100/3.5 100mm, Takumar 100/4 100mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V1 105mm, Takumar 105/2.8 V2 105mm, Takumar 120/2.8 120mm
Telephoto : Takumar 135/2.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/2.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V1 135mm, Takumar 135/3.5 V2 135mm, Takumar 150/4 V1 150mm, Takumar 150/4 V2 150mm
Long tele : Takumar 200/3.5 200mm, Takumar 200/4 200mm, Takumar 200/5.6 200mm, Takumar 300/4 V1 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V2 300mm, Takumar 300/4 V3 300mm, Takumar 300/6.3 300mm, Takumar 400/5.6 400mm, Takumar 500/4.5 500mm, Takumar 500/5 500mm, Takumar 1000/8 V1 1000mm, Takumar 1000/8 V2 1000mm
Zoom : Zoom-Takumar 45~125/4 , Zoom-Takumar 70~150/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 85~210/4.5 , Zoom-Takumar 135~600/6.7
Achromatic : Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 85/4.5 , Ultra-Achromatic-Takumar 300/5.6 300mm |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Wedding coming up. Help and advice needed |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Here's what I'd do in your shoes:
Use two bodies, your digital and a film camera. Stick the FA 31mm 1:1.8 Limited on #1 camera. Spend 15mins before ceremony to find 2 vantage points, preferably in the middle to catch the moment when bride is handed over to groom and another one where you can catch wedding couple and relatives in the same shot.
For group shots, use the 31mm and light people from above ie bounce a flash via the ceiling (alternatively, use an 80/20 diffusor, 80% up and 20% forward). Keep the 50/1.4 in your pocket, it'll come in handy for tighter cropped shots later during the day.
For the other body, stick the 70-210 on it. Most people at weddings don't get photos that get the scenes at the altar, and as Robert Capa said: "If it doesn't look interesting, you're probably not close enough." They'll love the shots because no-one else got close in with their cameras.
Once the ceremony is over you'll be able to take your time shooting details, flowers, food, wedding ring hands etc. using your 105mm Macro.
For the film camera, load it with ISO 400 and a fast lens. Use the longer zoom lens on digital. You can of course swap according to what you need, but the DSLR is handy for verifying exposures ie you won't miss film shots due to wrong exposure.
Good luck and don't worry: Given that everyone else is bleaching the scene with straight flash from point-and-shoots your shots will stand out in a positive way. |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
Thanks to all so far for the advice. I will not be using a film camera so that part is out. I do have 2 flashes. I have a Vivitar 285HV Zoom Thyristor and a Vivitar DF200 digital slave flash. _________________ Big Dawg |
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