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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: thoughts on kiev 60/6C |
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rbelyell wrote:
ive been thinking of getting some kiev 60/6C lenses for my 5d and ive noticed i can get a good deal on a package w the kiev 60/6C medium format camera. ive had a hankering to maybe try med/for one day, and thought i might take the plunge. anything i need to know (sure there's much) as never had any experience w med/for before....
thanks
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:05 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Lens tests...
http://www.pentaconsix.com/lenstest.htm _________________ John |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Yeah, just know that there is more than a good chance you'll have problems with it :LOL:
Shutters are usually first to go; one of the issues I've had is that the second shutter curtain would close too quickly at high shutter speeds so that at 1/500s, half the frame would be black, and at 1/1000 almost the entire frame would be black.
Also, frame overlapping (i.e., film transport) is also a common problem.
Fortunately, both of those problems are relatively easy to fix yourself.
I have a Kiev-6C and a Kiev-60, but the Kiev-60 developed a overlapping issue that's pretty severe, so I'm using the 6C more these days. But that has a problem where the mirror sometimes won't snap back down after winding the film. In such a case, I need to take the lens off, manually click the mirror into place, then put the lens back on At least the film transport is spot on with that cam. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
thanks guys. i had read something about the metering system of some russian MF cameras requiring some weird type russian battery...i dont remember exactly what it was. are there any such issues with metering on this camera? is there any online resource to instruct on the basics of this cameras operation, and MF generally, as ive never even held one of these cameras in my hand!
btw, are there differences between the 60 and the 6C?
t _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:33 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
You can use regular LR44 batteries with the meter if you DIY or purchase ($10) an adapter. You will probably have to calibrate the meter to compensate for the slight difference in voltage, but the good thing about these commie cams is that making adjustments like that are a sinch. Just unscrew a couple of grub screws on the dial and place it in the right spot
Regarding the difference between the two, the biggest difference is that the 6C let's you shoot 220, while the 60 is limited to 120. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
I think I read somewhere (might even have been here) that the British importer had serviced all these before selling them, so UK origin Kievs are generally better than others.
I might be wrong, though. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
If you buy the Kiev 60 set, you also get the extension tubes.
Out of the 20 mm extension tube and an old Canon EF mount of a defective Sigma lens one could create an adapter for the use of the Kiev / Pentacon lenses on a Canon EOS camera, manual for that in german language http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/pentacon-six-ef-adapter.html
The quality of the lenses is higher than that of the cameras, as far as I know that. The Volna 80/2.8 works well on DSLR and Kiev 60.
With my Kiev 60 I had some reflection issues and film transport problems. I solved the latest with a bigger film spool (some paper glued arround the spools).
I have a Kiev repair link section in my DIY linklist: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
PaulC wrote: |
I think I read somewhere (might even have been here) that the British importer had serviced all these before selling them, so UK origin Kievs are generally better than others.
I might be wrong, though. |
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