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Rusty
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 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: Auto super paragon 135/2.8 |
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Rusty wrote:
Anybody knows the performance or who made it ?
It's another cheapie coming my way
i think it needs a good cleaning 
 
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estudleon
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Paragon is a photax lens? It seems to be that
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=14095&view=previous
This PMC in green remind me the VMC in green of Vivitar?
Rino.
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Toeteraar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Toeteraar wrote:
Looks like an anagram of Panagor who also used the 'PMC' but in Panagors case in red letters
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Rusty
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Rusty wrote:
Rino
Thanks i saw that thread, but maybe paragon and photax are just the brand names and not the maker in both cases ?
i googled but cannot find more 
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casualcollector
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:48 am Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I'll guess it originated at Cima Kogaku. The diamond shaped witness mark is a characteristic of Cima. Yours would be newer than the one illustrated here.
Bill
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Bill !
You're the man! I was racking my brain thinking of where I had seen that diamond mentioned. Of course, you were the guy who had told me !
Nailed in one of course. Cimko it is. The lenses are kissing cousins on design and construction details.
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Rusty
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Rusty wrote:
Thanks guys !
Bill ... you should become a detective  Thanks for the info!
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casualcollector
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I learn from my mistakes. On my web site I comment that Cimko is probably the maker of some Chinon, Hanimex and Makinon 135s. I've learned otherwise since then!
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estudleon
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
| casualcollector wrote: |
| I learn from my mistakes. On my web site I comment that Cimko is probably the maker of some Chinon, Hanimex and Makinon 135s. I've learned otherwise since then! |
That's for all. Can you actualize your commentary in your web?
Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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casualcollector
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| That's for all. Can you actualize your commentary in your web? Rino. |
Can't do it, Rino. I haven't been a subscriber to that provider for four years now! I surprised they haven't removed it from the server. It still seems to get quite a few hits and links.
Bill
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NikonD
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NikonD wrote:
So how is the optical quality of the lens.... I'm lookin at one on ebay right now + pol. filter in mint condition for 57€ |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| NikonD wrote: |
| So how is the optical quality of the lens.... I'm lookin at one on ebay right now + pol. filter in mint condition for 57€ |
That seems an awful lot...
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NikonD
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NikonD wrote:
realy? It's a good thing I didnt click on it  |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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| realy? It's a good thing I didnt click on it |
I think they usually go for 10€ - 20€, but I could be wrong 
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Bill,
It still gets hits and links because it is well done and extremely interesting.
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PBFACTS
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PBFACTS wrote:
| NikonD wrote: |
| So how is the optical quality of the lens.... I'm lookin at one on ebay right now + pol. filter in mint condition for 57€ |
BEWARE : Later (1980 / 1985 ) Cima (cimko) lenses are among the worst in quality
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Lloydy wrote:
Raising a thread from the dead here I know, but....
I bought one of these lenses today very cheaply. It's in great codition, nice clean glass and no marks on the body at all, and everything turns smoothly as it should.
But something is bugging me.
There's a dead fly inside the lens!
The mummified corpse is rattling around deep inside, I can get it from behind the iris to in front. At the front it appears to be up against the front element. Is it easy to get the front element out ?
I've had front glass out of other lenses, so I'm thinking this is they way to go? But does anyone know different?
Or should I just leave it in there and shake it behind the iris when I take pictures ? 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I had a Super Paragon 200mm f:3.3 and it was very good.
Unfortunately I broke it... 
It happened when I opened it and remounted glasses in a wrong order.
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Lloydy wrote:
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I had a Super Paragon 200mm f:3.3 and it was very good.
Unfortunately I broke it...
It happened when I opened it and remounted glasses in a wrong order. |
Yeah, that would **** it up! And that's what I'm trying to avoid. I've already got a shoe box full of broken ( by me ) lenses.
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Lloydy wrote:
The fly, but it's cooperative in as much as it hides in the mechanism when I use the lens, which actually isn't a bad lens at all.
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