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Big Dawg
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No black lightning but here is a Black Shadow from the...http://barbermuseum.org/
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nemesis101
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| Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Vincent Black Shadow |
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nemesis101 wrote:
Arghh
More of my memories.. I had the Lighning, and also a 500cc Comet.. add that to a Royal Enfiled Interceptor, a Royal Enfield Consellation, a Norton Dominator, a 'Squarial' and a Sunbeam S9... and on and on.. including the odd Scott Squirrel and a James Sports Captain... through the 60's and 70's.. most bought and sold for a song back then, and some qorth a fortune today.. I am ashamed to say I swapped the Goldie 500 for a Hinda K6 750 as it didn't leak oil which was big thing back then when mums and girlfriends strangely objected to one's hobby of dismantling bikes on the kitchen table, or storing them in the hall-way?
lol
Yikes!!!
Doug
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No black lightning but here is a Black Shadow from the...http://barbermuseum.org/
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From the Golden Age
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nemesis101
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| Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Vincent Black Shadow |
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nemesis101 wrote:
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Arghh
More of my memories.. I had the Lightning, and also a 500cc Comet.. add that to a Royal Enfield Interceptor, a Royal Enfield Constellation, a Norton Dominator, a 'Squarial' and a Sunbeam S9... and on and on.. including the odd Scott Squirrel and a James Sports Captain... through the 60's and 70's.. most bought and sold for a song back then, and some worth a fortune today.. I am ashamed to say I swapped the Goldie 500 for a Honda K6 750 as it didn't leak oil which was big thing back then when mums and girlfriends strangely objected to one's hobby of dismantling bikes on the kitchen table, or storing them in the hall-way?
lol
Yikes!!!
Doug
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No black lightning but here is a Black Shadow from the...http://barbermuseum.org/
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Big Dawg
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Big Dawg wrote:
Memories for me as well but the closest I got to one of these was the cycling mags. None around in my part of the deep south back then.
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patrickh
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patrickh wrote:
They weren't that common in the UK either - expensive and very big.
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cooltouch
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cooltouch wrote:
Here in Southeast Texas we have the BMOA (British Motorcycle Owners Association) rally in New Ulm, Texas every May. Often, but not every year, there will be a contingent of Vincent owners who will show up. I've gotten some great pics of Vincents in the past from the New Ulm meet. I'll have to dig for them.
Here's BMOA's web address, and they have some photos of this years meet that you can view from there:
http://bmoaonline.com/
There is usually a very nice variety of cool old bikes that make the event, and there are some folks who travel a great distance to attend -- like Florida and California. We don't just restrict the meet to British and Euro bikes. All vintage bikes are welcome and appreciated. I didn't make it to this year's meet, but it appears that unfortunately the Vincent contingent didn't make it this year. Oh well, maybe next.
My first exposure to the Vincent was an article I read, about the Black Shadow in a mid-1960s issue of Cycle magazine. I remember a couple things about it -- all the photos were in black and white, and were extremely well done. And the author claimed that it was impossible to kick start the bike without using the compression release. I also recall him raving about the gobs of torque the motor had.
And then a couple years ago or so, some of my biker friends and I were sitting around talking about motorcycles, and one guy says this Vincent owner he knew didn't have to shift his bike out of 2nd until 90mph. And here I am, thinking about my BMW R90/6, which also has a motor with gobs of torque, and how, at 90mph, my bike would be redlining in 4th, requiring a shift to 5th. If this anecdote is true, then this means that the Black Shadow owned by my friend's friend must have an exceptionally tall gear ratio, and that the only way that sort of gear ratio would be possible and for the bike to be reasonably streetable would be if the motor had the stump-pulling torque of a farm tractor.
Ah, the legend of Vincent.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
***and one guy says this Vincent owner he knew didn't have to shift his bike out of 2nd until 90mph***
In our motorcycle gang we were always doing pranks, like putting a pencil line down spark plugs to short them........anyway one guy who wasn't the sharpest tool in the box, we persuaded him to test the top speed of his Bonneville in first gear and was amazed it reached 60mph (thru the black smoke).
On the Vincents there was a rumour that the rear cylinder suffered from over heating, not sure if this was true.
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Poolhall
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Poolhall wrote:
I think the overheating was more of a problem with the enclosed models like the Black knight  |
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cooltouch
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
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| On the Vincents there was a rumour that the rear cylinder suffered from over heating, not sure if this was true. |
Not just Vincents, but Harleys too. The rear cylinder on any tight, upright, inline V-Twin is gonna run hotter than the front. All those qualifying adjectives were necessary so's to exclude Moto Guzzis and Ducatis and even the Hondas and Yamahas that have V-twin designs with wider Vs.
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
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| I think the overheating was more of a problem with the enclosed models like the Black knight |
Well we weren't really interested at the time, as none of us could afford a Vincent, and by the time we could, we were into cars and more girls, then marriage and kids, mortgage etc.....well yanno.
But I've always had two wheels of some sort all my life, even at times a Lambretta or Honda moped
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