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heartcat
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 Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: Which Helios for my Canon 450D? |
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heartcat wrote:
I am thinking my next lens purchase might be a Helios. Is there one in particular that you'd recommend for use with this camera?
I'm leaning towards a 44M-4 58mm. Are there different versions of the same model?
Are any of the Helios models easier to use than others? I'm just a novice photographer.
Any photos you'd care to share with your Helios on your 450D would also be appreciated! 
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djmike
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djmike wrote:
There are serval versions of Helios 44s. They are all good but quality is various so try to find a reliable seller. And you need a adpater from M42 lens to EOS mount at least. Search "Helios 44" in this forum and you can find some photos believed is taken by Canon EOS. Mike
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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tkbslc
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Location: Utah, USA
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tkbslc wrote:
I liked the 44M version. Just plain M, not M4, etc.
It had 8 blades for nicer bokeh and an auto/man switch which made popping back to wide open for brighter focusing easier.
Really, they are all nice variations of a great lens. Hard to go wrong, really.
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andyw
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andyw wrote:
and so cheap!!!! and good too
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djmike
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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djmike wrote:
Mine is 6 blades of 44M-6 and I have no 8 blades version to compare. Here is latest shot with Canon 400D at about F2.8. Lens is soft when wide open but special twirling bokeh.
Mike
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M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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ludoo
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ludoo wrote:
Mine is the 44M-6 too, which according to many has better coating and more sharpness than older versions. A shot wide open on my *istD I posted in the pets thread
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Tharos
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Tharos wrote:
I have the same cam and using Helios 44-3. You can see a set here :
http://forum.mflenses.com/day-out-with-helios-44-3-t22368.html#193765
I was completely manually focusing (no split screen or AF confirm chip), so some pics are not perfectly in focus
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55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
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andyw
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andyw wrote:
Here's my 44/2 in action. Just some light work in Lightroom.
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heartcat
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heartcat wrote:
Thank you for sharing photos and for the information and opinions.
Djmike, thanks I will try to do a search. I go back and forth on whether or not I like the swirly bokeh, lol. Sometimes it seems distracting to me, but other times, as in that lovely photos of the flowers you posted, it seems to enhance the image. It gives it an artistic look/feel.
Tkbslc, since I'm just using the viewfinder of my 450D for focusing, brightness is important to me. And the 8 blades sounds good. I might have to take a look at the 44M then.
Andyw, yes cheap is a bonus! My photography budget is very limited so the price of the older MF lenses, especially when you consider the quality, is very appealing.
Ludoo, what a lovely shot of a beautiful dog! Hmmm, better coating and more sharpness seems important as well. Something else to think about.
Tharos, thanks for sharing that link. What lovely architecture! Most of the buildings here are so new and plain. The photos with the colourful trim and the stair rails were very interesting. And that little girl is so cute! What was the close up photo? Was that a straw broom?
Andyw, that photo with the 44/2 looks great. Sharp and the colour looks very rich. Did you do much to the colour/contrast in post processing?
I'm still as confused now, lol. All the photos look great. I guess perhaps it won't really matter which version I get after all. Maybe it will just depend on availability and price.
Thanks so much everyone.
ETA: Forgot to say that I do have a couple of M42 to EOS adapters. |
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ludoo
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ludoo wrote:
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| I'm still as confused now, lol. All the photos look great. I guess perhaps it won't really matter which version I get after all. Maybe it will just depend on availability and price. |
I think your plan is sensible: look for trusted sellers, and check as much as possible that the glass is ok. I got a 44M-2 a while ago which looked in good condition, but checking the front glass with a loupe revealed lots of deep cleanng scratches. The latest models (-6 and -7) have probably more chances of being in mint condition as they have been used less, or are NOS items.
One other thing you might want to consider is filter thread sizes: later versions like my -6 have 52mm threads, earlier versions 49mm (or so I gathered from a few sources). If you already have a hood in one of those sizes, it might be enought to decide on one version.
One other thing you might want to check is the mount: some versions have a flange that prevents them to sit properly. See here. |
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Tharos
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Tharos wrote:
I am not so sure but I guess it was the carpets edge. Many carpets all in one place.
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Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
58mm : Helios 44-3 F2
85mm : Jupiter 9 F2
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djmike
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djmike wrote:
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Here's my 44/2 in action. Just some light work in Lightroom.
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Wow, what great color, Andy.
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SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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tkbslc
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:30 am Post subject: |
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tkbslc wrote:
From the 44M
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