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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: bought the bessa r; lens recommendation? Reply with quote
i'm thinking jupiter 8, in black. gotta be a 50. other options? recommendations - even lenses offered for sale - appreciated.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: bought the bessa r; lens recommendation? Reply with quote
fish4570 wrote:
i'm thinking jupiter 8, in black. gotta be a 50. other options? recommendations - even lenses offered for sale - appreciated.


Ask Andy (F16Sunshine about compatibility issue) Jupiter-12 is pretty unbeatable I think Jupiter-8 is pretty average lens. If you find try to take a Jupiter-3.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Get an Industar-61, they are really good Tessar type lenses and usually cost about 10 (euros/dollars). They are very contrasty and sharp, really great for b&w.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ludoo wrote:
Get an Industar-61, they are really good Tessar type lenses and usually cost about 10 (euros/dollars). They are very contrasty and sharp, really great for b&w.


Yup that's the truth. The one thing that might stop you is the post cost. It will be more than the lens cost.

I suggest you go ahead and try the J8. It can be really good or just OK WO but becomes great by f4-5.6 (copy variation).

J12 is a no go do to a deep set rear element. The CV 2.5/35 color Skopar is outstanding at it's FL for $200-$300.
It compares to pre asph Summicron at corresponding apertures.
An old Leitz Summaron 35 could be great also although not better or cheaper than the CV lens.

Have fun and congrats!!


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
it will be a normal. that is just the way i see. ok, the industar 61 ...


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You know what though Paul.
I would really most highly recomend the Canon/Serenar LTM 1.8/50 as a first lens. Perfect match for the Bessa and also very affordable.
The build is superior to the Russian stuff. A lot of the J8's need to be shimmed to focus correctly.
The Industar has good glass but a crappy barrel and the Focus Cam is not to smooth sometimes.
Lots of lens chices out there. Take your time.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
f16, i googled the canon, and they are very dear, starting at 150. i think i'll chance an fsu lens or two, unless a cv lens shows up at a decent price ...


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fish4570 wrote:
f16, i googled the canon, and they are very dear, starting at 150. i think i'll chance an fsu lens or two, unless a cv lens shows up at a decent price ...


Living in the US has its advantages: look at this, or this. UG-rated lenses might have a few scratches, but then they might be ok, if you can call to check on their condition you might score a good lens at a nice price. And in any case a Canon 50mm with a so-so lens might still be better than an FSU lens.


PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fish
I have an Industar 3.5/50 I will send you for postage.
Maybe then you can asses and wait out for the perfect lens.
Send me a PM if interested.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is the first photo I took with my Fed-3 and I-61 2.8/52mm... The Ukranian guy who sold it to me showed me how to work the thing & load film, I step out, across the train tracks, aim, shoot:



You're getting me eager to try out this kit again.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks, nesster. i don't doubt at all the capabilities of the lens. there is the issue of rangefinder accuracy, that slight shimming can take care of.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats, Paul, looking forward to the pix! Cool


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanky. it'll have to go hard to beat the minolta a5 and the spot.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats on the Bessa.

As for the soviet lenses there might be the problem with focus accuracy. I wouldn't by one without testing as long as they are not dirt cheap.

The FSU lenses with M39 are built to the contax standard which is slightly different to the leica standard. If you have a little time to read there is an article about it:
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/compat.html

As I told allready in the other thread I tested the Jupiter 8 and the Industar 61 lens. I had two Jupiter 8. For the 1st the focus was way off and so I sent it back to the seller. The second was better but soft wide open. The Industar 61 lens (my copy) was much sharper than the Jupiter but the build quality of the barrel was mediocre and focusing was not what I call smooth. Nothing comparable to the Cosina/Voigtländer lenses.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shimming the J-8 for exact focusing is an easy job: the fron of the lens unscrews just by twisting it with your hands, and inside you will find the brass shims used by the factory. Add or remove shims (paper, aluminum foil, etc) until focus is correct.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Shimming the J-8 for exact focusing is an easy job: the fron of the lens unscrews just by twisting it with your hands, and inside you will find the brass shims used by the factory. Add or remove shims (paper, aluminum foil, etc) until focus is correct.


I might be wrong but when I understood the article at datestella correct than by shimming the lens it is either possible to adjust close focus or infinity (or something between) and not the whole range.

Anyhow DOF may cover those tolerances in practice especially when using the slower lenses.


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
IANUS wrote:
I might be wrong but when I understood the article at datestella correct than by shimming the lens it is either possible to adjust close focus or infinity (or something between) and not the whole range.


Well yes, people usually "tune" Jupiter 8s and 3s for close focusing, and rely on DOF for infinity shots, as the difference in focus is not that much and only apparent shooting near subjects.

But sometimes you get a lens which is totally off, and fixing it by adding or removing shims is a better option than returning it to the seller, especially if it comes all the way from Russia. Smile


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
aha! thank you, gentlemen. excuse my ignorance, but what does DOF mean?


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Depth Of Field


PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
well, duh on me. what a goober. i KNOW about depth of field but not DOF? how is that possible? Shocked


PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was just over at RFF. It looks like the other fanboys are preaching the Canon 1.8/50 also.
It's a great lens. You should track one down for sure (skip the J8 gamble).


PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
we shall see. i'm watching some color-skopars (28 and 35) on ebay to see how the pricing goes. they're posted by a canadian outfit.
hope the r gets here tomorrow or saturday ... Cool


PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
fish4570 wrote:
we shall see. i'm watching some color-skopars (28 and 35) on ebay to see how the pricing goes. they're posted by a canadian outfit.
hope the r gets here tomorrow or saturday ... Cool


I can't comment on the Skopar 28 but the tiny Color Skopar 35 is definitly my favourite lens for the Bessa. As for the pricing I paid 150 british pound for a new about 2 years ago.
I also tried the faster Ultron 1.7/35 but this lens is blocking some of the viewfinder which I found a bit distracting and so I sold it.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks, ianus. i hope the 35 bidding stays within my budget. i still would not mind trying a jup 8. i like character ...


PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ludoo, i just ordered a j-8, rated excellent, from fedka. will i orobably have to add shim thickness to make it focus exactly? (senbding this note in a pm, too.)
thanks,
paul
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