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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Konica Hexar RF Reply with quote
I know that Attila just bought another Konica rangefinder to add to
his eclectic collection. Cool

I am probably asking a stupid question, but if I could get the
Konica Hexar RF for a good price, would it be as good as any other
rangefinder camera? I have heard good reviews, but I am
wondering if any of you could give me some first-hand opinions.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Hexar RF is a great cam, very good lens. I am sure you will like it.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, if you won't take it , please let me know I will take it if I able to finance.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've seen shots taken with the Hexar AF, and them purdy good, too. Wink Both of these go for a bit of chunk on the 'bay.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very different cameras, though - the Hexar AF is a point-and-shoot with a unusually fast prime, while the RF is a all-electronic, motorized body for Leica M compatible lenses.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys! Keep in mind that this is just a consideration at this time.
I've always wanted a "really good" rangefinder, and this seems to be a
viable candidate. Of course, there's also the Contax cameras as
well.... Cool.

I'm aware of the pros and cons of a rangefinder, and have used
my Electro 35 quite a bit. I like the different aspect of shooting with
a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR. The freedom is really nice,
and I feel that I am part of the scene with the rangefinders.

If I do decide to spring for the Hexar, I would definitely go with
the Hexar RF, so that I could override the "automatic" features with
manual settings. Also, there would be a good bunch of lenses available.

Somewhere in here, I have a feeling Orio just MIGHT be mentioning
the Contax G series...haha! Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
Thanks guys! Keep in mind that this is just a consideration at this time.
I've always wanted a "really good" rangefinder, and this seems to be a
viable candidate. Of course, there's also the Contax cameras as
well.... Cool.

I'm aware of the pros and cons of a rangefinder, and have used
my Electro 35 quite a bit. I like the different aspect of shooting with
a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR. The freedom is really nice,
and I feel that I am part of the scene with the rangefinders.

If I do decide to spring for the Hexar, I would definitely go with
the Hexar RF, so that I could override the "automatic" features with
manual settings. Also, there would be a good bunch of lenses available.

Somewhere in here, I have a feeling Orio just MIGHT be mentioning
the Contax G series...haha! Laughing


I don't think so you made right decision, even best RF 35mm camera is not reach medium format quality.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Consider one thing with the Hexar AF.
THE LENS Shocked

Many consider that lens comparable to the latest Summicron (non Asph).
Konica offered it in LTM for a limited time the UC Hexanon 2/35 . Those go for $1200 on average.
The Hexar AF can be taken for $350-$450 dependent on the model.
That's $350 for one of the very best and sought after 35mm lenses on the market.
The Hexar AF has interesting features as well.
The Stealth mode truly is nearly silent. Also you can set the AF system to focus to the IR point of the lens.
Maybe of little use to some but, very useful if you are an IR film shooter.

I've begun to move a good part of my kit to Hexanons.
The Dual 21/35mm was my first and it's build and image quality just floored me (on the RD1 and M8 have not shot film with it yet).
The Hex 28 is stunningly good. Best of the 2.8/28 M mount lenses in Build and IQ.
Got a Hex 2/50 this week and have yet to try it. First impression again is that the build is Leica quality.
Of course you don't need a Hexar RF to use the Hexanon lenses.
Any M mount will work. even a simple Bessa R2.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Andy, the Hexar AF would be my ULTIMATE point and shoot. Someday.
I love Hexanon glass.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hexanon for ever Wink


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Laurence wrote:
Thanks guys! Keep in mind that this is just a consideration at this time.
I've always wanted a "really good" rangefinder, and this seems to be a
viable candidate. Of course, there's also the Contax cameras as
well.... Cool.

I'm aware of the pros and cons of a rangefinder, and have used
my Electro 35 quite a bit. I like the different aspect of shooting with
a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR. The freedom is really nice,
and I feel that I am part of the scene with the rangefinders.

If I do decide to spring for the Hexar, I would definitely go with
the Hexar RF, so that I could override the "automatic" features with
manual settings. Also, there would be a good bunch of lenses available.

Somewhere in here, I have a feeling Orio just MIGHT be mentioning
the Contax G series...haha! Laughing


I don't think so you made right decision, even best RF 35mm camera is not reach medium format quality.


Hi Attila. I haven't actually made a decision, and I will think it out carefully. I am just putting out "feelers" to get an idea from the wonderful members of this forum.

I am nor sure what you mean....do you feel that perhaps I should sink money into medium format gear, rather than consider a purchase of a Konica Hexar?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
Attila wrote:
Laurence wrote:
Thanks guys! Keep in mind that this is just a consideration at this time.
I've always wanted a "really good" rangefinder, and this seems to be a
viable candidate. Of course, there's also the Contax cameras as
well.... Cool.

I'm aware of the pros and cons of a rangefinder, and have used
my Electro 35 quite a bit. I like the different aspect of shooting with
a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR. The freedom is really nice,
and I feel that I am part of the scene with the rangefinders.

If I do decide to spring for the Hexar, I would definitely go with
the Hexar RF, so that I could override the "automatic" features with
manual settings. Also, there would be a good bunch of lenses available.

Somewhere in here, I have a feeling Orio just MIGHT be mentioning
the Contax G series...haha! Laughing


I don't think so you made right decision, even best RF 35mm camera is not reach medium format quality.


Hi Attila. I haven't actually made a decision, and I will think it out carefully. I am just putting out "feelers" to get an idea from the wonderful members of this forum.

I am nor sure what you mean....do you feel that perhaps I should sink money into medium format gear, rather than consider a purchase of a Konica Hexar?


I believe for landscapes bigger slide is better than smaller one. So any 35mm is not a good choice even the best one for your shoots. If you need challenge try large format instead of 35mm.

If just for fun, I Konica Hexar is an awesome opportunity.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Consider one thing with the Hexar AF.
THE LENS Shocked

Many consider that lens comparable to the latest Summicron (non Asph).
Konica offered it in LTM for a limited time the UC Hexanon 2/35 . Those go for $1200 on average.
The Hexar AF can be taken for $350-$450 dependent on the model.
That's $350 for one of the very best and sought after 35mm lenses on the market.
The Hexar AF has interesting features as well.
The Stealth mode truly is nearly silent. Also you can set the AF system to focus to the IR point of the lens.
Maybe of little use to some but, very useful if you are an IR film shooter.

I've begun to move a good part of my kit to Hexanons.
The Dual 21/35mm was my first and it's build and image quality just floored me (on the RD1 and M8 have not shot film with it yet).
The Hex 28 is stunningly good. Best of the 2.8/28 M mount lenses in Build and IQ.
Got a Hex 2/50 this week and have yet to try it. First impression again is that the build is Leica quality.
Of course you don't need a Hexar RF to use the Hexanon lenses.
Any M mount will work. even a simple Bessa R2.


F16SUNSHINE wrote: Many consider that lens comparable to the
latest Summicron (non Asph). Andy! Really?....comparable to
a modern Summicron? Shocked Shocked Shocked Holy, holy COW!

Konica offered it in LTM for a limited time the UC Hexanon
2/35 . Those go for $1200 on average.
So...it's the same lens, just mounted permanently to the AF body? Shocked

Those lenses (21-35 duo), etc. are compelling. Of course, I'm assuming
that I would need the Hexar RF for these, as the Hexar AF uses the
proprietary lens affixed to the camera.

I didn't realize you were changing your major kit to Hexanon lenses! Shocked

Last edited by Laurence on Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:37 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
I didn't realize you were changing your major kit to Hexanon lenses! Shocked



It is mean something Wink isn't it ?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence, Andy was talking about the Hexar RF or any other LTM mount
camera. Hexar AF is a fixed lens point and shoot, but the lens is extraordinary, to say the least.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Laurence wrote:
Attila wrote:
Laurence wrote:
Thanks guys! Keep in mind that this is just a consideration at this time.
I've always wanted a "really good" rangefinder, and this seems to be a
viable candidate. Of course, there's also the Contax cameras as
well.... Cool.

I'm aware of the pros and cons of a rangefinder, and have used
my Electro 35 quite a bit. I like the different aspect of shooting with
a rangefinder as opposed to an SLR. The freedom is really nice,
and I feel that I am part of the scene with the rangefinders.

If I do decide to spring for the Hexar, I would definitely go with
the Hexar RF, so that I could override the "automatic" features with
manual settings. Also, there would be a good bunch of lenses available.

Somewhere in here, I have a feeling Orio just MIGHT be mentioning
the Contax G series...haha! Laughing


I don't think so you made right decision, even best RF 35mm camera is not reach medium format quality.


Hi Attila. I haven't actually made a decision, and I will think it out carefully. I am just putting out "feelers" to get an idea from the wonderful members of this forum.

I am nor sure what you mean....do you feel that perhaps I should sink money into medium format gear, rather than consider a purchase of a Konica Hexar?


I believe for landscapes bigger slide is better than smaller one. So any 35mm is not a good choice even the best one for your shoots. If you need challenge try large format instead of 35mm.

If just for fun, I Konica Hexar is an awesome opportunity.


Well, I must admit it would be simply to actually own such a highly
regarded camera and lens. Probably more esoterically an "ownership" thing...not really practical I know. Embarassed

On the practical side, I DO like to use a small rangefinder such as the
wonderful Electro 35 (from Andy's generosity), and it would be nice to
have the Hexanon equipment for social situations and tight family shots.
And just to have it in my hands... Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Quote:
I didn't realize you were changing your major kit to Hexanon lenses! Shocked

It is mean something Wink isn't it ?


Yes it does! Especially since I know TWO other photographers who are
switching, or have already switched, most of their kits to Hexanons!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
Attila wrote:
Quote:
I didn't realize you were changing your major kit to Hexanon lenses! Shocked

It is mean something Wink isn't it ?


Yes it does! Especially since I know TWO other photographers who are
switching, or have already switched, most of their kits to Hexanons!


Problem only they are out of my budget, so I play with cheaper ones. SLR lenses and old RF cameras, folders. All are excellent no exception.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence, Andy was talking about the Hexar RF or any other LTM mount
camera. Hexar AF is a fixed lens point and shoot, but the lens is extraordinary, to say the least.


I re-read the post, and figured it out. Laughing

So, this is a sort of "dream camera" for you...the Hexar AF? While I
see now that the lens is second to none in various members' opinions,
would the limitation of having just the one lens not be a problem for
you?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:

So, this is a sort of "dream camera" for you...the Hexar AF? While I
see now that the lens is second to none in various members' opinions,
would the limitation of having just the one lens not be a problem for
you?


No, not with that particular lens, but you see, I've seen pictures from
this. Wink Laughing Flat awesome!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence wrote:

So, this is a sort of "dream camera" for you...the Hexar AF? While I
see now that the lens is second to none in various members' opinions,
would the limitation of having just the one lens not be a problem for
you?


No, not with that particular lens, but you see, I've seen pictures from
this. Wink Laughing Flat awesome!


Interesting...to say the least! Shocked

It looks like Hexanon lenses are really admired by members in this forum.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just some of us like the Hexanons, Laurence. Also, there can only be
six members in an Hexanon Club, it's in the name.... Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Just some of us like the Hexanons, Laurence. Also, there can only be
six members in an Hexanon Club, it's in the name.... Laughing


So

1) Bill
2) Rino
3) Andy
4) Larry ??
5) Rolf ??
6) Attila


PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
Just some of us like the Hexanons, Laurence. Also, there can only be
six members in an Hexanon Club, it's in the name.... Laughing


So

1) Bill
2) Rino
3) Andy
4) Larry ??
5) Rolf ??
6) Attila


Looks good to me! Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Don't forget "cledry".
He has shown some great samples from the reflex hex lenses.
Smile
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