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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: Contax Distagon 2/28 "Hollywood" on 5DII |
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Orio wrote:
Reviewing interaction between Contax Distagon 2/28 and EOS 5DII
These are only quick test shots from my house, I will add more interesting photos when I can go to nicer places.
Close up focusing, no mirror problem:
100% crop:
Focus on the background line of trees, approx. 400 mt distance, no mirror problem:
Focus to infinity, mirror could not swing back, I had to unmount lens after shot
(with live view no mirror problem):
100% crop:
Focused on the house roof right of the pole, approx. 120-150 mt distance, no mirror problem:
One remarkable thing for me is how dimensional the rendering in spite of the very crappy flat lighted weather. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16634 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
The lens renders really dull and crappy images - get rid of it and get a good one for your new "flagship" camera body, I'll send you my address.... _________________ Klaus - Admin
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
The weather is not nice here neither, but the truly good lens performs and
reveals its nature under such a condition.
Viva hollywood (not movie) _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
The lens renders really dull and crappy images - get rid of it and get a good one for your new "flagship" camera body, I'll send you my address.... |
And the body also is really bad. But don't worry, Orio, I will take care of it. Just send the body to me.
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Wow! Tha 100% crop looks like a whole frame pic of a compact digicam! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
superb results in such weather! I am glad you can use your best Zeiss without mirror cutting
Carsten wrote: |
Wow! Tha 100% crop looks like a whole frame pic of a compact digicam! |
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jimlizard
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 128 Location: Fafe, Portugal
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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jimlizard wrote:
Very interesting, Orio!
Thank you for this test!
I was excluding this lens because of mirror issues with the 5D, but I never focus to infinity so, I think it should be more than ok to me.
Can you confirm if your lens is in a 100% stock condition, without modifications at the rear end?
I was looking for something wider, like the Zuiko 21mm f/2.0, but I'll not loose the opportunity, if I find a good deal in one of these.
Which other top-quality wide angle lenses did you test and how do you like this one compared to them (shapness, colour and contrast)? _________________ Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EF 24mm f/1.4 L USM
Canon EF 35mm f/1.4 L USM
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50mm f/1.4
Olympus OM Zuiko 135mm f/3.5
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
jimlizard wrote: |
Very interesting, Orio!
Thank you for this test!
I was excluding this lens because of mirror issues with the 5D, but I never focus to infinity so, I think it should be more than ok to me.
Can you confirm if your lens is in a 100% stock condition, without modifications at the rear end?
I was looking for something wider, like the Zuiko 21mm f/2.0, but I'll not loose the opportunity, if I find a good deal in one of these.
Which other top-quality wide angle lenses did you test and how do you like this one compared to them (shapness, colour and contrast)? |
Be careful when using this lens on an unshaved 5D (first type)
You risk to damage the rear glass. I did test the lens on the unshaved 5D with the rear glass protected py a pec pad + masking tape and the test showed that the mirror can hit also the glass not only the barrel's edge.
My lens has no physical modification, but I am not going to sell it...
I have used wide angle lenses of several brands. I am not really the test kind, I prefer to use lenses "on the field". I find the Distagon 2/28 to be the best 28mm lens that I have tried, but I have not tried them all. The quality of the 2/28 has more to do with the overall aspect of the image rather than specific qualities like sharpness for instance. If you want sharpness there are sharper lenses, like the small brother Distagon 2.8/28.
If the subject moves to all the wide angles, of any focal lenght, it becomes too big a subject to be answered here. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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jimlizard
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 128 Location: Fafe, Portugal
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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jimlizard wrote:
Thanks again, Orio.
I was not expecting you to sell your copy.
I now own the 5D Mark II. Do you find it more "mirror friendly" than the first 5D, or is it the same? _________________ Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EF 24mm f/1.4 L USM
Canon EF 35mm f/1.4 L USM
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50mm f/1.4
Olympus OM Zuiko 135mm f/3.5
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jimlizard
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 128 Location: Fafe, Portugal
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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jimlizard wrote:
Just bought one today!
MM version, made in West germany. _________________ Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EF 24mm f/1.4 L USM
Canon EF 35mm f/1.4 L USM
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50mm f/1.4
Olympus OM Zuiko 135mm f/3.5
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It is a bit more mirror friendly, mostly because with live view you can use many lenses that were not useable at all even on shaved 5D (but you have to take care to operate it properly).
With the Distagon 2/28 however you will have to shave the mirror of the 5DMkII also if you want to use it trouble free in normal mode at infinity focus (as indicated in my review). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
Orio,
How much would this lens cost today? I saw a nice looking one in a shop but no price on it.
Thanks'n Regards, _________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I know a very good dealer who has two of these in stock in E++ condition, the AE one is £649.00 and the MM is £799.00. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
can anyone compare the contax version to the new ZE version?
I havent either of these lens as of yet, but the cost difference would not be an issue so I wait for a good comparison.
In the meantime I use my CY 28/2.8. _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Orio, which adapter are you using?
While I am waiting for my Planar 1,4/85 (Contax), I am wondering if the adapter I ordered will prove effective...
I find the appearance of the Contax lenses very superior to the ZF/ZE/...
The focus ring on my 2/35 also feels too stiff. _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Nikos
Joined: 17 May 2010 Posts: 1077 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Nikos wrote:
Bruce, you may find this interesting:
Source: http://www.pebbleplace.com/Personal/Zeiss_28mm_ZE_3.html
I can say without a doubt, given a choice between the original Contax 28mm F2 Distagon and a Zeiss 28mm F2 Distagon ZE, I would select the Zeiss 28mm F2 ZE every time. Some of my reasons include:
•Close-up performance at wide apertures (such as F2) is very good; most likely better than any of the three Contax 28mm F2’s I owned.
•The fully automatic aperture makes the lens more enjoyable and easier to use, and back at home in front of the computer - all the EXIF data is there - including the aperture value.
•There is no need for a third party lens adapter, so one variable is removed from the performance equation along with that nagging doubt of whether or not the adapter is compromising the lens’ performance.
•Canon 5D and 5D Mark II owners will no longer need to worry about mirror clearance.
•Purchasing a new 28mm ZE is mostly like cheaper than buying a Contax 28mm F2 Distagon plus a CY/EOS adapter, Contax 55-86 Metal Ring and Contax #2 Metal Hood. Also, Contax AE lenses are no longer serviceable by Zeiss; MM lenses are still serviced.
•Should there be anything wrong with a newly purchased 28mm ZE, replacement is simply a matter of returning the lens to the dealer for exchange or refund. _________________ Νίκος • www.diafragma.gr
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D Mark II, Sony α7R, Sony NEX-5N
MF lenses:
SLR:
Canon TS-E 17mm f/4, Zeiss 2.8/21 ZE, Zeiss 2/28 Contax, Zeiss 2/35 ZE, Zeiss 1.4/50 Contax, Zeiss 1.4/85 Contax, Zeiss Makro 2/100 ZE,
Zeiss 2/135 Contax, Zeiss 2.8/135 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70 Contax, Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 100-300 Contax, Zeiss F-Distagon Rollei, Canon FD 24mm f2, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8
Rangefinder:
Zeiss 4.5/21 C Biogon ZM, Zeiss 2/35 Biogon ZM, Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 Heliar L39, Leica Tele-Elmarit 2.8/90mm, Zeiss 2/45 Contax G, Zeiss 2.8/90 Contax G, Canon 50mm 1.8 LTM
AF lenses: Canon 15mm f/2.8 Fisheye, Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II, Canon 70-200 f/4 L, Canon 300 f/4 L IS, Canon 100 f/2.8 macro
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
nkanellopoulos wrote: |
Orio, which adapter are you using? |
I use Big Is, and I'm happy, but if you want to spend more money on the HappypageHK ones, they tell me they're great. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:13 am Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
I picked up the Hollywood 28/2 today The shop had it for a bit less than what ManualFocus-G mentioned for the AE version, just a little under £600.
Tried it before the light faded when I got home. It must be my adapter as the shots don't look as sharp as I would expect from CZ lens. Shots were made f:8 in fading light. No PP just resize to 1024x768. All focus at infinity, with no mirror hitting.
_________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:31 am Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
Looks like I blamed the adapter too quickly. I tried some shots at infinity with LiveView and it's just perfect now. I though I got myself a 'dud'-Distagon _________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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