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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: Tokina 17mm |
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Russ wrote:
A buddy is curious about this one. Any experience or opinions on it?
Thanks
Kiron Kid _________________ 'A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the spirit"
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
A very nice lens. About as good as the legendary Tamron SP 17mm and often a lot cheaper.
Another hint: he should try to find a Vivtar 3.5/17, that's the same lens like the Tokina and much cheaper (but they are getting more and more expensive, people have realized!) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Which one ? I have the RMC 3.5/17 but I think that there is an ATX which is supposed to be better. I think that the RMC is good but probably not great. Unfortunately I'm not sure what I can compare it with. I don't think it's as sharp as the Zenitar 2.8/16, Arsat 2.8/20 or Nikkor 3.5/20 UD (my copies of course). It is close in IQ to the Nikkor 18-55 VR kit lens. This may seem like a strange comparison (I have pics if anyone is interested) but the non-VR version of the kit lens has been highly rated at the wide end. _________________ John |
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Petzval 1840
Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 103 Location: N.E. of Spain (Europe)
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: Tamron 17mm SP, WEP 21mm and Distagon 40mm... |
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Petzval 1840 wrote:
Hello:
I bought about 1989 the Tamron SP 17 mm and it has been very useful to me for photography of ruins. The quality is very good.
Earlier it was using a WEP of 21 mm (I believe) that it has form of bell. The quality of the photos was medium: it looks alike in the form to my Distagón 40 mm for Hasselblad C but the last one is something better (laughs).
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
sichko wrote: |
... I don't think it's as sharp as the Zenitar 2.8/16, Arsat 2.8/20 or Nikkor 3.5/20 UD ... |
I'm selling one at the moment. Perhaps that's an alternative for your buddy... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16625 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Nice lens, works quite well, so I have two (one as backup) _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
sichko wrote: |
... I don't think it's as sharp as the Zenitar 2.8/16, Arsat 2.8/20 or Nikkor 3.5/20 UD ... |
I'm selling one at the moment. Perhaps that's an alternative for your buddy... |
Nikkor UD is far better than Tamron SP 17 , truly fantastic lens for money. _________________ -------------------------------
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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I have and use the Tamron SP 17 f/3.5 and like it. My buddy is just curious about the Tokina 17mm.
Kiron Kid _________________ 'A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the spirit"
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
A very nice lens. About as good as the legendary Tamron SP 17mm and often a lot cheaper.
Another hint: he should try to find a Vivtar 3.5/17, that's the same lens like the Tokina and much cheaper (but they are getting more and more expensive, people have realized!) |
I have a Vivitar 3.5/17 in Canon mount. S/N 378... So, you think this lens might have been made by Tokina? Does the Tokina have the "wings?"
It's a nice lens, but has noticeable barrel distortion along the edges. I've found I can live with that, though, since it's not an issue with landscapes and such, and even if one is photographing architecture, as long as straight lines aren't placed too close to the edge, it's not a big deal.
Here's a photo of my 17:
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supahmario
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 615 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:36 am Post subject: |
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supahmario wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
(but they are getting more and more expensive, people have realized!) |
and you are not innocent! _________________ EOS 5D, EOS 30
Leica-R: Summicron 2/50
QBM: Distagon 2.8/35
PK: Tokina 3.5/17, Porst 1.2/55
M42: S-M-C Takumar 3.5/24, S-M-C Takumar 1.8/55, CZJ MC Sonnar 3.5/135, Jupiter 21M 4/200
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Russ
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 432
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
Yes, it's Tokina made.
Kiron Kid (MrVivSeries1) _________________ 'A photograph that mirrors reality, cannot compare to one that reflects the spirit"
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
Tokina AT-X 17 AF pro...is that the one you mentioned? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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justtorchit
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 269 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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justtorchit wrote:
New to the forum although I have read it for quite a while now. Helped me out a lot! Anyways, just thought I would throw this out there since it's something I just looked into myself.
I picked up a spiratone 18mm f/3.5 and it looks the same as the Vivitar 17mm image posted above. After some digging I discovered it is indeed the same lens, just labeled a bit differently. Tokina made as well. Great little lens! Not a corner-to-corner sharp contender by any means but it handles quite well. I posted what I found about it on a blog I have started in an attempt to compile this type of information, mostly for my own reference.
Again, however, not the Tokina 17mm so I too am anxious to hear about this lens. _________________ David
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Welcome! Thank you for this valuable information! I guess Spiratone 18mm lenses are come from different sources. Please post picture from your lens! _________________ -------------------------------
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
The Tokina 17mm AF goes for a hefty premium compared to the older MF Tokina 17mm. Browsing through eBay just now for 17mm's of any flavor, it appears that one can expect to pay $300 and up for a good one. I found a few that were being offered in groups of more than one item, which might be the way to go. Buy the lot, then sell off the other items, and you'll probably be money ahead. _________________ Michael
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have the Tokina 17 ATX - it is a very decent lens for its pedigree. Definitely not a Distagon, but no slouch. Soft on the edges right up to f8, but quite clean from then on. Some vignetting, but not serious and easily cured. Some distortion, but proper software can deal with it.
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Nima
Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Nima wrote:
Or maybe wait for the Samyang 14mm? If it is good I might even sell my Zenitar 16mm. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I'll bet the Samyang 14mm will be quite a bit more expensive than the 85mm f/1.4. Sure does look a lot like the Canon FD 14mm f/2.8L. I wonder if it might be a clone of that lens.
Hmmm . . .
If it is, that would be really cool. I had a chance to borrow a 14mm f/2.8L briefly years ago. Geez, what an amazing lens it was. _________________ Michael
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justtorchit
Joined: 12 Oct 2009 Posts: 269 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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justtorchit wrote:
Here is my spiratone 18mm I was mentioning earlier:
I added the spiratone graphic (as I often like to do) haha. And on the 14mm note, we had the nikon 14mm f/2.8 at school but strictly for studio use. But honestly, with the size of that studio, give me a break. Needless to say, I had to break it outta there and take it for a walk. It was amazing! I am interested in seeing how the samyang will perform. _________________ David
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you David, I think I saw older model before.
Please do me a favorite and upload to Equipment Gallery too with lens name in title. _________________ -------------------------------
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Nima
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Nima wrote:
Pre-Order price for the Samyang is 260€. But they postponed the release to iron out some flaws inherent in the early versions. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:39 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Nima wrote: |
Pre-Order price for the Samyang is 260€. But they postponed the release to iron out some flaws inherent in the early versions. |
Good news -- well about the price, at least. Lessee, 260€ is what -- about a hundred eighty bazillion USD now?
Seriously, that's very affordable considering the focal length, especially if it's in the same league as the 85/1.4. _________________ Michael
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