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rpo83
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 Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: Jupiter 9 85/2 |
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rpo83 wrote:
My Jupiter 9 85/2 arrived today as well, i want a Leica Summilux 80/1.4 but can't afford it  so i thought i would try out the Jupiter as a portrait lens until my bank balance recovers from all these manual lenses you guys are inspiring me to own....
Here it is mounted on my old SD10 body
The lens was described as exc+ from the eBay seller, but when i just took this image i saw this on the front element... Look just bellow the f8 - 16 marks and near the company logo.
Is this something i should be worried about, and if you were selling this lens would you describe it as exc+? The aperture blades are also oily, is this normal?
The lens was bought from semensky on eBay, has anyone dealt with him before??
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Attila wrote:
Oily blades are normal , I saw nothing on pictures perhaps my laptop display not enough to see it.
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
I'm finding it difficult to see the marks you are talking about - I'll check my monitor. I've bought a couple of items from semensky and I've been very pleased. I would certainly consider him again. As for the exc+ - I think you need to take it with a pinch of salt and look at the photographs. I bought a Nikkor 50mm, which was described as exc++, from a large UK dealer (not on the bay). It had had two dings on the filter ring. These had been repaired but not very well. Presumably one "+" for each ding.
Oil on the rings is normal for this lens - and some others. It's part of the design and manufacture. I bought a copy of this lens (this model as well) where the buyer said "he didn't think that he could see any oil". I suspected him of not being completely honest. I was right and I received a pristine lens with bright, shiny, and lightly oiled, aperture blades.
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rpo83
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rpo83 wrote:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the quick feedback.
I have highlighted the areas in red, hopefully the image will update soon.
It looks like spiderwebs, emanating from the edge of the element towards the lens centre.
I am probably being paranoid, i only saw it once i had taken the photo, it was very hard to see with the naked eye.
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M42... Carl Zeiss... Pancolar 1:1.8/80, Asahi Pentax... Super Takumar 1:3.5/35mm, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50mm, Jupiter... 1:2/85mm, Pentacon... 1:2.8/135mm MC,
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Looks like fungus to me.
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kuuan wrote:
looks like fungus to me too
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rpo83
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rpo83 wrote:
Thanks guys,
Unfortunately, i knew you were going to say the dreaded "F" word
I have emailed him pics of the problem, i'll wait for his reply.
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M42... Carl Zeiss... Pancolar 1:1.8/80, Asahi Pentax... Super Takumar 1:3.5/35mm, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50mm, Jupiter... 1:2/85mm, Pentacon... 1:2.8/135mm MC,
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xjjohnno wrote:
At least it should be easy enough to clean up. |
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rpo83
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rpo83 wrote:
I have never pulled a lens apart, never had the courage 
From your comment, am i to assume these ones are easy????
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M42... Carl Zeiss... Pancolar 1:1.8/80, Asahi Pentax... Super Takumar 1:3.5/35mm, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50mm, Jupiter... 1:2/85mm, Pentacon... 1:2.8/135mm MC,
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
The front element is easy to remove - one simple retaining ring. If you have to go deeper I don't know.
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Well, I also received my J9 today (with Nikon-M42 adapter included). Must be Jupiter day!
Mine is the uncoated (well, not multicoated) version, looks similar to the one in the first post except the focus ring is scalloped like old pre-AI Nikkors. The front element has a lot of cleaning arks, and there is a tiny chip out of the rear element. Not exactly as described: "en bon état-pas de griffe ni de champignons" well at least there was indeed no fungus, and the overall condition seems okay.
The multiblade iris diaphragm is quite amazing.
Fired off a couple of quick tests, soft and glowwy wide open as expected.
Also as expected, no infinity focus; it seems to go out to maybe five to six metres?
Photos once I have them.
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Jieffe
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| Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
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| Also as expected, no infinity focus; it seems to go out to maybe five to six metres? |
If you disassemble the lens (the optical bloc simply unscrews from the rear part), you will find a shim. Maybe you could gain a little focusing distance by removing it ... |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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Well, I also received my J9 today (with Nikon-M42 adapter included). Must be Jupiter day!
Mine is the uncoated (well, not multicoated) version, looks similar to the one in the first post except the focus ring is scalloped like old pre-AI Nikkors. The front element has a lot of cleaning arks, and there is a tiny chip out of the rear element. Not exactly as described: "en bon état-pas de griffe ni de champignons" well at least there was indeed no fungus, and the overall condition seems okay.
The multiblade iris diaphragm is quite amazing.
Fired off a couple of quick tests, soft and glowwy wide open as expected.
Also as expected, no infinity focus; it seems to go out to maybe five to six metres?
Photos once I have them. |
J9 is one of the adjustable lens to reach infinity on Nikon. I remember somebody do it here.
After quick search in Google I found this.
http://www.ragarecords.com/photo/m42jupiter9nikonf.html
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
rpo83
Not matter. Great portrait lens.
Oily? It's normal in pre-set lenses.
Fungus? Till I see, easy to clean.
DO it an enjoy your really first class portrait lens.
Good luck.
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I've no experience with this lens. To the people that have it, why do you like it? Sharpness, bokeh?
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Attila wrote:
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| I've no experience with this lens. To the people that have it, why do you like it? Sharpness, bokeh? |
Perfect portrait lens, bokeh , sharpness ideal for portraits. Not too sharp at wide open but not too soft either. Stopped down pretty sharp.
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Thanks Attila - This was one of the lenses I originally shortlisted along with the Volna 3 (which I owned and then sold; a decision I regret) and the Tamron 90.
I think it would be quite different to the Tamron so I'm tempted to pick one up.
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Heezzi wrote:
Hello. I been lurking for the past week and have been eyeing the Jupiter-9. I read how the build quality is shaky. Is there a way to find a great one or should I just not worry about it and just buy one off ebay? |
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| Hello. I been lurking for the past week and have been eyeing the Jupiter-9. I read how the build quality is shaky. Is there a way to find a great one or should I just not worry about it and just buy one off ebay? |
Welcome! Nothing wrong with built quality, Kalasnyikov built works fine everywhere take from Ebay but be sure buy SLR lens it has rangefinder version too.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| martinsmith99 wrote: |
| I've no experience with this lens. To the people that have it, why do you like it? Sharpness, bokeh? |
Perfect portrait lens, bokeh , sharpness ideal for portraits. Not too sharp at wide open but not too soft either. Stopped down pretty sharp. |
Yes, Attila once again is right.
The J-9 has a particular touch, ideal for portraits. People and animals portraits. Perhaps all class of near subjects.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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Heezzi
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Heezzi wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Heezzi wrote: |
| Hello. I been lurking for the past week and have been eyeing the Jupiter-9. I read how the build quality is shaky. Is there a way to find a great one or should I just not worry about it and just buy one off ebay? |
Welcome! Nothing wrong with built quality, Kalasnyikov built works fine everywhere take from Ebay but be sure buy SLR lens it has rangefinder version too. |
So why does some say that are looking for a good one? Are some better than other Jupiter-9s? |
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no-X wrote:
Yes, the older models are better in optical quality. The old silver SLR M39 version is likely the best, I have never noticed anybody, who had a lemon. On the other hand, I have noticed anybody, who would confirm, that at least one copy of the last model is at least as sharp as the earliest model.
I know 5 versions of SLR Jupiter-9:
1. silver KMZ (M39)
2. silver LZOS (M39)
3. black, bumpy focusing ring (M42)
4. black, notched focusing ring (M42)
5. black, notched focusing ring, MC (M42)
With a bit of oversimplification I'd say, that the newer, the contrastier, while the older, the sharper.
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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I know 5 versions of SLR Jupiter-9:
1. silver KMZ (M39)
2. silver LZOS (M39)
3. black, bumpy focusing ring (M42)
4. black, notched focusing ring (M42)
5. black, notched focusing ring, MC (M42)
With a bit of oversimplification I'd say, that the newer, the contrastier, while the older, the sharper. |
Cool, mine is a type 3 so I should be good.
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Heezzi wrote:
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Yes, the older models are better in optical quality. The old silver SLR M39 version is likely the best, I have never noticed anybody, who had a lemon. On the other hand, I have noticed anybody, who would confirm, that at least one copy of the last model is at least as sharp as the earliest model.
I know 5 versions of SLR Jupiter-9:
1. silver KMZ (M39)
2. silver LZOS (M39)
3. black, bumpy focusing ring (M42)
4. black, notched focusing ring (M42)
5. black, notched focusing ring, MC (M42)
With a bit of oversimplification I'd say, that the newer, the contrastier, while the older, the sharper. |
Are there serial numbers and dates that match the types so one would have a good ideal what they are getting? Thanks. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
All of them good I beleive.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/jupiter/jupiter-9_85mm_f2_m39_silver/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/jupiter/jupiter_9_85/
RF not SLR!
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/jupiter/jupiter_9_8_5cm_contax/
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