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Jesito
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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: CHINON Auto 50mm 1.7, cheap lens. Cheap results? |
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Jesito wrote:
The lens set in the Pentax *istDS. Not useable (other wide open) in Av mode, in M mode works fine measuring prior to each shot by pressing the AEL button.
I did a detail test
Crop at 100%
Bokeh test, to me is nice. Colour not bad.
f8:
I have to test it further. Maybe is not a bright gem, but among the cheap ones gives a nice performance.
Regards.
Jes.
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Chinon is well known from good equipments including lenses, personally I never seen any bad or below average Chinon lenses any of them worth to take it. One thing moe I never seen any bad or.. 50mm lenses.
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aoleg
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
Mine was a non-MC version. It flared terribly, and produced dull colors in anything but evenly lit environment. Sharpness was so-so in the center, but very soft in the corners (and that was on a crop camera). It was quite like Helios-44-2, only without its merits. I sold it for 100% profit for $10 
Try Super or S-M-C Takumar 55/2 or 55/1.8, and you won't be disappointed. That is a great fifty! Or SMC Pentax-M 50/2, it's cheap and very, very good (I bought mine for $25).
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Jesito
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| One thing moe I never seen any bad or.. 50mm lenses. |
Maybe I've to send you a couple of Exakta Domiplans 
Regards,
Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
| Attila wrote: |
| One thing moe I never seen any bad or.. 50mm lenses. |
Maybe I've to send you a couple of Exakta Domiplans
Regards,
Jes. |
Hahaha I was lucky my copy wasn't bad.
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no-X
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
| aoleg wrote: |
| Mine was a non-MC version. It flared terribly, and produced dull colors in anything but evenly lit environment. Sharpness was so-so in the center, but very soft in the corners (and that was on a crop camera). It was quite like Helios-44-2, only without its merits. I sold it for 100% profit for $10 |
Couldn't it be a bad or unprofessionally repaired copy? I had Chinon 55/1.7 M42 and it was good lens, esp. for the price. Similar to Helios lenses stopped down, but sharper around f/2.
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casualcollector
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casualcollector wrote:
As a rule, there are few, if any bad 50/55mm lenses for 35mm SLRs. There are a few superior lenses, but unless they've been damaged or slipped through Q.C., no bad ones.
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estudleon
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
| aoleg wrote: |
| ......Try Super or S-M-C Takumar 55/2 or 55/1.8, and you won't be disappointed. That is a great fifty! Or SMC Pentax-M 50/2, it's cheap and very, very good (I bought mine for $25). |
I noted that you not named the SMC 1,8/55. Are there a special reason to that? Not so good as the ST ot the S-M-C ?
This isn't the first time that I hear : the S-M-C is the better.
The same I heard about the 1,4/50 :the S-M-C is the best of the three, and I bought it. Really a dream lens. I should say that it reminds me the IQ of the summilux M 1,4/50 of 1966.
Regards, Rino.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
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Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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aoleg
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aoleg wrote:
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| I noted that you not named the SMC 1,8/55. Are there a special reason to that? Not so good as the ST ot the S-M-C ? |
Not really, it's just that the SMC version is usually rare and more expensive. However, the all-metal S-M-C 55/1.8 is most definitely built better. Performance-wise, it's on par with the SMC. With a proper hood (I'm using a long tele hood on it), Super-Takumar 55/2 is very nice, and can be had for $10-15!
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Thanks Aoleg.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I had both the SMC and S-M-C. I sold the SMC as it wasn't quite as sharp and I didn't care for the rubber focus ring.
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