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Katastrofo
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 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: Got a free Voigtlander Vitomatic I |
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Katastrofo wrote:
A friend of mine shops the used stores and picked this camera up for a
couple of bucks, but said the shutter doesn't work and handed it over to
me. It looked in excellent shape, even the case, so went online and found
out the shutter charges by moving the film advance sprocket inside the
cam. Will see what shakes this weekend. This is a zone focus cam.
Also in the mail today an Olympus Trip 35 from England arrived in immaculate shape! And tomorrow I go to the post office to pick up the
Sony DSC-V1 point and shoot.
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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
Congrats, Bill, nice bunch!.
The Vitomatic should be easy to fix, the Prontor shutters trend to get stuch by lack of use, the flooding technique should work.
Which lens does it carry?.
If you got a Color Skopar, it's a great acquisition, it's the best one Voigtlander built for their rangefinders, and is very popular.
Look here for samples: http://www.wolkerstorfer.at/35/VoigtVitomatic/vitomatic.html
Good luck with the fix!.
Jes.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jes, it is the Color Skopar and the shutter does work! I opened the camera
and moved the sprocket to charge the shutter and it fired off with no problem.
I have an accessory rangefinder that I CLA'd that works great
that will go on the cam when I shoot a roll this weekend. |
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Jesito
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
Jes, it is the Color Skopar and the shutter does work! I opened the camera
and moved the sprocket to charge the shutter and it fired off with no problem.
I have an accessory rangefinder that I CLA'd that works great
that will go on the cam when I shoot a roll this weekend. |
Congrats!, you have then the best Voigtlander set...
I'll be impatient to see your shots! 
Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
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Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jes, I'll post some if I get some. Hopefully Monday-Tuesday next
week. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Congrats!! I look forward really how color skopar works in Vito.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
Jes, it is the Color Skopar and the shutter does work! I opened the camera
and moved the sprocket to charge the shutter and it fired off with no problem.
I have an accessory rangefinder that I CLA'd that works great
that will go on the cam when I shoot a roll this weekend. |
Congratulations!!!
It's a little cam with great hard. The lens, Skopar is marvelous, cream bokeh (blur), vainilla colors. You will like it very much. Please don't use it out of the range F/8 to F/16. Only for low light F/5,6 (because the borders something soft). But if you want a very soft image F/2,8-4 will seem to you as impressionism touch.
Look at the skopar, if it has "color X" is the last coated. from the front the reflexion is pale blue, yellow and purpure. this coated can stay without the "X". The old coated's reflexions are pale blue and yellow not purpure.
Again, congratulations!!! Rino.
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Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
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Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks Attila and Rino!
Rino, it's just the plain old Skopar without the X, but appreciate your
advice!
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Nesster
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Seriously excellent, congratulations!
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
Congrats!!
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Nesster and Carsten, hope to have something to post in a few days. |
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j.lukow
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j.lukow wrote:
Yes definately good catch and a good friend.
By the way, how do you find shops like this?  
Jim
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Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
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Yes definately good catch and a good friend.
By the way, how do you find shops like this?
Jim |
Jim, my friend goes to many places. The sonofab*tch retired at age 50, is
a year younger than me, and makes money almost by accident. I like him,
but he's irritating at the same time. I don't really mean the last part,
you're right, he's a good and loyal friend. I've been trying to get him to
expand his horizons a little in photography, but he's happy snapping away
with a Sony P&S, oh well. |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
he's happy snapping away
with a Sony P&S, oh well. |
Is he happy? OK. What else for him? 
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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kuuan
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kuuan wrote:
just was researching on fixed lens rangefinders according to which have the best lens. Elsewhere I found the Vitomatic III and the Vitessa recommended because of their 2/50 Ultron lens.
Here you guys say the Color Skopar is the best lens on Vitomatic.
who is right 
and better still I ask: which fixed lens rangefinders are known for having a specially nice lens?
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
There are two lenses in 50mm 2.8, the color lanthar (3 lenses) and the color skopar (4 lenses). The Ultron is 50mm 2.0, very good, but expensive. So for a cheap P&S or rangefinder the skopar is preferable. |
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Banjo
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Banjo wrote:
| kuuan wrote: |
just was researching on fixed lens rangefinders according to which have the best lens. Elsewhere I found the Vitomatic III and the Vitessa recommended because of their 2/50 Ultron lens.
Here you guys say the Color Skopar is the best lens on Vitomatic.
who is right
and better still I ask: which fixed lens rangefinders are known for having a specially nice lens? |
I have the Vitomatic IIa, with Colour Skopar lens: a very nice outfit (and the built in meter still works perfectly!) 
However, as the cognoscenti will tell you, the "Ultron" lens is "the top lens" in the Voigtlander line-up (sorry) 
Even so, you do have a very nice piece of kit.
PS: I don't worry about zone focusing or estimating the subject to camera distance (unless very close, e.g. 1 to 2 metres), I use Hyperfocal distance focusing with my Vitomatic: it gives excellent results. |
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scsambrook wrote:
We still have a Vito B with bright line finder which I gave my wife back in 1966. It has the f3.5 Color Skopar X and - provided you focus it correctly - it gives a 50mm f2.8 Elmar a good run for its money. Even at f4.
The Ultron is reckoned to be better, but one of my friends had a Vitomatic IIa with it and that particular one was what we used to call "woolly" at f2 and f2.8. It's a front cell focus arrangement on the Vitomatics, unlike the folding Vito III which (I think) worked like the rollfilm Bessa II. Maybe that messes things up, or maybe my friend's camera had been badly serviced in the past.
The Ultron on the Prominent is certainly a fine lens, but I wonder if the version for the Prontor shutter models might have been different?
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
The economical focus system, rotating and moving the front cell of the lenses, that produce the change in the focal lengh of the lens, was one of the disadvantages of the RF skopars lenses.
The sharpness doesn't the same at all focal lenghs. At long focus is sharper than a close focus.
The differences in sharpness between the SRL and RF skopars lenses are big.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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