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fenris
Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: CRT vs LCD output |
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fenris wrote:
I'm rather bothered by comments made by friends about some images I routinely upload. The most common comments are low contrast, and high noise. Now, I'm still using a CRT when most people are using LCDs, so I expect there are differences in output. My CRT is calibrated, but when I try the exact same image on my school's LCD screens (they're also calibrated), the images do indeed look washed out and noisy. Something like what happens when I crank up the brightness on my CRT.
Has anyone noticed this phenomenon? On one hand I've adjusted my screen to print properly and be comfortable to my eyes, but on the other, I'd also like people to be able to see my images the way I see them on my CRT. One way is printing, sure, but is there a good way for digital images? |
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Sevo
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
LCD often are more contrasty and always sharper.
The way an image looks like is very different when looked at on a CRT than on a LCD.
That's why everybody who looks at pictures should state which display he uses when he comments on photos. My 2c. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Let's forget LCD for REAL adjustments of pictures..
CRT is still better --
I don't use CRT at all -- but I would buy the BARCO -- propably the best CRT ever made and still on the top..
It's going very cheap on ebay sometimes --- which is NOT IS THIS CASE..
http://cgi.ebay.com/29-Barco-Monitor-ICD-674_W0QQitemZ350195465318QQcmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item518946bc66&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_636wt_1167
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fenris
Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:11 am Post subject: |
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fenris wrote:
Och...that's one heftily priced monitor. Anyway, it's not an Apple thing, though I have viewed my pictures on my iBook and they do look a lot like the stuff on the school's PC LCDs.
Mmm I guess ultimately there's no real way to ensure that people see what I do, except perhaps to process the images separately for LCDs and perhaps come up with a set of recorded photoshop actions to do that for me. |
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trifox
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
hi fenris --
from my point of view -- one of the best CRT monitors were IIYAMA
So, the rest of the world should be equipped by IIYAMA at least
LCD is a crap -- especially from some angle of view ..
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11011 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: CRT vs LCD output |
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visualopsins wrote:
fenris wrote: |
I'm rather bothered by comments made by friends about some images I routinely upload. The most common comments are low contrast, and high noise. Now, I'm still using a CRT when most people are using LCDs, so I expect there are differences in output. My CRT is calibrated, but when I try the exact same image on my school's LCD screens (they're also calibrated), the images do indeed look washed out and noisy. Something like what happens when I crank up the brightness on my CRT.
Has anyone noticed this phenomenon? On one hand I've adjusted my screen to print properly and be comfortable to my eyes, but on the other, I'd also like people to be able to see my images the way I see them on my CRT. One way is printing, sure, but is there a good way for digital images? |
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fenris
Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: Re: CRT vs LCD output |
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fenris wrote:
Yes that's something that didn't occur to me. It's a possibility for sure. In fact, I suspect that might just be the issue. I remember that I used to have radically different results viewing the same image from photoshop, and then from my browser.
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