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MF-addicted
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 Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: Pentacon 3.5/30 |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Won an auction for a Pentacon 3.5/30 M42 for 5 Euros.
It is said that it is a Meyer Lydith sucessor.
Any comments on this lens welcome.
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Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
Lenses for sale, please contact via PM: None at the moment
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Jieffe
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Location: Belgium
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Pentacon 3.5/30 |
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Jieffe wrote:
| MF-addicted wrote: |
Won an auction for a Pentacon 3.5/30 M42 for 5 Euros.
It is said that it is a Meyer Lydith sucessor.
Any comments on this lens welcome. |
I think it IS the Meyer Lydith rebadged by Pentacon.
Quite sharp, far better than the Pentacon 29mm (well, at least my copies). Well worth the 5 € you paid. |
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no-X
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Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I'd like to see a comparision of Lydith, Primagon and good copy of 29/2.8. My copy of 29/2.8 wasn't bad, but Primagon outperformed it (higher sharpness, none CA).
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mflex-on
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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mflex-on wrote:
I had several Pentacon 29, one 30 and one Meyer Primagon 4.5/35 and now a 2.8/29 Meyer Orestegon.
Sad to say but all Pentacons were more or less crap. Bad corners, misaligned lenses. The Meyer Orestegon is the best so far.
At 4.5 the 2.8/29 Meyer Orestegon is far better than the Meyer Primagon 4.5/35! More Details, better colours, more FOV - if you need. I would have kept the Primagon but it was very sensitive to scattered light.
Unfortunately the Pentacon/Meyer Lydith 3.5/30 does not go with my EOS 5D. Is was bad at corners too. Maybe a good performer on film. |
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Attila
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Location: Hungary
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
| mflex-on wrote: |
I had several Pentacon 29, one 30 and one Meyer Primagon 4.5/35 and now a 2.8/29 Meyer Orestegon.
Sad to say but all Pentacons were more or less crap. Bad corners, misaligned lenses. The Meyer Orestegon is the best so far.
At 4.5 the 2.8/29 Meyer Orestegon is far better than the Meyer Primagon 4.5/35! More Details, better colours, more FOV - if you need. I would have kept the Primagon but it was very sensitive to scattered light.
Unfortunately the Pentacon/Meyer Lydith 3.5/30 does not go with my EOS 5D. Is was bad at corners too. Maybe a good performer on film. |
Meyer was on top at before war equal level than Zeiss in my experience, after war they starting to going down and reach lowest quality built quality and quality control at Pentacon. Some of Pentacon lens has excellent quality, like 135mm f2.8, 100mm f2.8 and I didn't detect any optical quality issue.
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007
Posts: 2190
Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
My copy is decent. Last summer I went to Russia and the pentacon made it into my bag as my only wide-angle (largely because it was compact compared to my Mir 10A) . I didn't anticipate using it all that much but it ended up taking about 90% of my photos. Here is a sample, 1st corrected for a blue cast (because of the sky) but not sharpened, 2nd and 3rd crops from original scan - no alterations: Fuji Reala 100 film, Zenit B, Canoscan 700f
~Marc
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Here is my copy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10403737@N03/3729782200/
The lens, if you have a good copy, is really dependable and consistent. There are no real surprises. This can be a good thing for your style of photography or not so much. Also, this lens has one of the shortest focus throws I've ever encountered. It is slightly less than a half a turn. Which again can be good and can be bad. I frankly like the feel of a bit more precision in my focus even if it doesn't make all that much difference for a wide-angle. But anyways good luck with it. |
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007
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Location: UK
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
I quite like my copy, although a bit 'loose' and battered it works well enough on 4/3.
A crop...
(sorry - terrible tint)
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MF-addicted
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Location: Stuttgart (Germany)
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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MF-addicted wrote:
Thanks for your comments and information. 
Primarily I want this lens for wide angle people shots and close ups with its color rendition and smooth bokeh.
@themoleman342: thanks for the image and the crops
@Xpres: beautiful portrait - exactly the look I want to achieve with this lens
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EOS 5D MK II, EOS 5D Classic, EOS 400D --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Canon FD to EOS converted: FD 1,4/24 asph, FD 2,8/300 L
Carl Zeiss Jena:Pancolar 2/50, black Biotar 2/5,8cm 17bl., slim Biotar 1,5/7,5cm 18bl., Pancolar 1,8/80mm, Sonnar 3,5/135, Triotar 4/135
Carl Zeiss: Distagon 4/18T*, Distagon 1,4/35 HFT, Planar 1,4/50 T*, Vario-Sonnar 3,4/35-70 T*,Vario-Sonnar 4,5-5,6/100-300 T*
Leitz: Elmarit-R 2.8/28 E55 II, Summicron-R 35 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2.8/35 E55 II, Summicron-R 2/50 Wetzlar I, Macro Elmarit-R 2.8/60 I, Summicron-R 2/90 E55 I, Elmarit-R 2,8/90 I, Elmarit-R Wetzlar 2,8/135 I, Elmarit-R 2.8/180 Wetzlar E67 II, Vario Elmar 4/70-210 E60, MR Telyt-R 8/500
Schneider: Xenar 2.8/50
Russian: Industar 50-2, Industar 61,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm, MC 3M-5CA 8/500
Meyer: Pentacon 3,5/30, Domiplan 2,8/50, Trioplan 2,9/50, Trioplan 3,5/75, Trioplan 2,8/100, Orestor 2,8/135mm, Orestegon 4/200
ISCO: Westron 2,8/35, Westron 3,5/35, Tele-Westanar 3,5/135, Tele-Westanar 4/180
Yashica: ML 15, ML 21, ML 24, ML 28, ML 35, ML 100/3.5 Macro,
Nikon: Nikkor AI 2,0/24, Nikkor AIS 2,0/28, Nikkor Ai 1,8/50, Nikkor-P (Sonnar) 2,5/105 silver, Nikkor-P (Gauss) 2,5/105 black
Steinheil Cassar 3,5-4,5/75 VL, Quinar 3,5/85, Culminar 4,5/105, Culminar 4,5/135, Auto-D Tele Quinar 2,8/135
Tomioka Tomioka - Cosinon 1,2/55, Tomioka - Revuenon 1,4/55
Voigtländer: Septon 2/50
Others: Officine Galileo Ingra 3,5/5cm, Wilon 4,5/75, Dallmeyer 4,5/4", Bonotar 4,5/105,
Lenses for sale, please contact via PM: None at the moment
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cedus
Joined: 28 Jul 2009
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cedus wrote:
I love this lens.
The construction quality is amazing : 10 blades for a nice star/circular shape, very smooth continuous aperture from a bit below 3.5 to 22. I like it as well because this is my only lens where aperture is on top and the focus ring closest to the camera (like the early alu flektogon 35mm 2.8 I think)... and the most important... image quality is up to my taste !
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Hungary
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Attila wrote:
Great! Congrats for your new beauty!
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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