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martinsmith99
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 Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: Just bought a KMZ Helios 44-2 |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Well, it was in the local charity shop and had been there on my previous 3 trips. Each time, I'd picked it up and then put it down, not really knowing why I was looking at yet another 50ish mm lens and already owning the 44M; each time coming home and regretting not buying it.
This time I bit the bullet and paid the massive sum of 4GBP (it was priced at 3.49GBP) for a lens that I could inspect before buying (not like the auction sites). One thing I didn't notice until I got home was that it had an MMZ logo on the lens cap (what an anorak!).
Have taken a few snaps around the house between the showers an no looking forward to getting some samples of it's bokeh.
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Mal1905 wrote:
A nice buy at that price Martin - is it the matt, shiny, or zebra version? 
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I have 10 0f these damn things. I just can't ever seem to resist! 
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Erm...this one
I may look out for a zebra. Were they manufactured by KMZ?
Shrek> 10?????? 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
It's a shiny one!
Now you just need to find one with a 0 serial number, everyone on MF needs one beginning with a 0 for some reason
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Hi,
this is mine. I´m not the Helios expert, is this the zebra version ?
It has a serial no. beginning with 72...., does this mean production year 1972 ?
Anyway for this price a great lens.
Look here
http://forum.mflenses.com/lunch-today-in-our-sushi-bar-t18717.html
Thanks !
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Poolhall wrote:
Right both times Rolf 1972 and its a Zebra  |
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peterqd wrote:
My 44-2 is a Zebra just like Rolf's. The number is N90xxxx, but I'm pretty certain it's older than 1990. Do we know the first year number to be used?
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
Some early MMZ lenses have serial numbers, which don't correspond to the year of production. It's interesting, that second digit of these serial numbers is often zero (e.g. 50xxx, 60xxx etc.)
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Do the MMZ verions look the same as the KMZs?
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Poolhall
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Poolhall wrote:
Pretty much, No -x has a list of the varants somewhere, including the paint finishes, yours has an MMZ logo on the lens cap Martin, but I can't see if its the same on the lens however the Nxxxx number is usually KMZ |
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
It's a KMZ lens, but MMZ cap.
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
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| Pretty much, No -x has a list of the varants somewhere, including the paint finishes, yours has an MMZ logo on the lens cap Martin, but I can't see if its the same on the lens however the Nxxxx number is usually KMZ |
Link is in my signature (3rd row) 
The "N" letter is present even on old MMZ 44-2 lenses (44-1 and 44-2 zebra... 44-2 black+white and later models probably doesn't carry the "N" letter).
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I had a look at the list by No-X, but it seems mine is the same as the 2nd version of the MMZ, but the factory logo on it is the KMZ one. The serial number also starts with a N.
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no-X wrote:
OK, I'll fill it in to the list: KMZ, 71, black + white Thanks.
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