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Arctures
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 Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: Looking for a 135mm lens advise please |
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Arctures wrote:
Hi everyone.
I want to get some interesting 135mm lens preferably fast but sharpness is the main factor. I like Canon 70-200 Tele-Tessar sharpness and colors but when looking at Tele-Tessars (Zeiss, Rollei) 135/4 they are looking a bit too dark. Am I wrong? I didn't own neither of them so any comment will be appreciated. Actually if there is something similar to EF 135/2.0 L I would like to know the most. This lens is really interesting FL/Aperture combo.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
The Contax tht you have will outperform or equal anything available. One stop is not much of a gain at 135mm IMHO.
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
APO Lanthar 125/2.5 
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Attila wrote:
Depend from your budget ... almost any 135mm is a good one from $5 USD to $2000.
My favorites are next:
Carl Zeiss Contax 135mm f2.8
Olympus Om 135mm f2.8
Steinheil 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Jena 135mm any variant
Pentacon 135mm f2.8 any variant
Nikon 135mm f2.8 any
Konica 135mm any
Nikon 135mm f2
If you can afford it my dream ones is Carl Zeiss Contax 135mm f2
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/main.php
Put to search box 135mm... at least 300 high resolution pictures will come taken with 135mm lenses.
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visualopsins wrote:
Very sharp, high contrast:
M42 Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 2.5/135, second version 43812 with 6 lens elements.
also +1:
M42 PENTACON Auto 2.8/135 MC
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M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Arctures
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Arctures wrote:
Many thanks, guys for useful answers.
1. 'One stop is not much of a gain at 135mm' - well I am agree. Except a few low light situations.
2. APO Lanthar 125/2.5 is great But out of my budget for a while
3. How about Nikon 135mm f2? Actually I know almost nothing about Nikon lens especially manual. When I searching Flickr for samples I can see different Ai, Ai-s and AF (auto focus I guess)
4. Thanks for Takumar 2.5/135 suggestion. I'll try to find it.
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Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Nikkor 135mm f2 is an excellent lens.
Non_AI 135mm f2.8 dirt cheap I rate lot higher than Tak 135mm with 6 digits. I had both I kept Nikon.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/nikon_nikkor/nikkor_135mm_f2_8_qc_non_ai/
Nikon 135mm f2
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/patrickh/nikon-nikkor_135mm_f2_ais/
If you are fine with a bit shorter focal length checkout these.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/patrickh/nikon_nikkor_105mm_f1_8/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/nikon_nikkor/nikkor_105mm_f2_5_AIS/
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Arctures
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Arctures wrote:
Thanks again. All opinions were recorded. 135/2.0 looks nice but rather expensive. 105/2.5 looks interesting of course as well as 105/1.8
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Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
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Piotrek
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Piotrek wrote:
I've tested Leica Elamrit 135, Carl Zeiss Contax 135/2.8 and Pentax K 135/2.5. In addition to that I had Meyer Orester 135/2.8, Sigma 80-200/2.8 and Leica Vario 80-200/4.
At 135mm Contax is the best if you are interested in overall IQ.
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Arctures
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Arctures wrote:
Wow, such a great collection, Piotr. Thanks for valuable info.
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Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
Canon FD 135/2.5 SC, Auto Topcor 135/3.5, Pentax SMC 55/1.8, Minolta 35/2.8, Minolta MD 35-70/3.5 |
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FernandoB12
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FernandoB12 wrote:
Arctures,
If you are looking for low cost and reasonably to good lens, the only I had tested and can recomend, was the Soligor 135 f/2.8. I have a Nikkor 135 f/2.8, but don't try ir yet. I will receive it from service, next week, I hope .
Some samples of Soligor, all hand held.
The Lens:
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Vivitar Series 1 Macro 105mm 2.5
Helios M44-4 58mm f/2; Soligor 350mm f/5.6; Soligor 135mm f/2.8;
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aoleg
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aoleg wrote:
Of all 135mm I have, I like Contax Sonnar 135/2.8 the best. Nikkor 135/2.8 (Ai or Ai-S) is close (yet vignettes slightly more), and Nikkor 135/3.5 is sharper wide open. Vivitar Series 1 135/2.3 is good, but renders quite harsh wide open.
S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5 is also a fine lens, yet I would rate the similarly specced Nikkor higher. Jupiter-37A and Tair-11A are both good lenses, but I can't call them 'general purpose 135mm'; they are more of specialty lenses to me.
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
For a Canon user the great thing about Nikkor lenses is that they will almost all fit the Canon EOS system with an adapter. That means a Canon user can use a non-AI mount Nikkor that doesn't attach to modern Nikon cameras. And there are some fantastic old Nikkors out there, some of them going for fairly low prices just because they don't fit the Nikon system any longer (at least, not without a difficult alteration to the lens mount).
The drawback, of course, is that you have to operate the focus and aperture for yourself, nothing is automatic (but we all like that here, don't we?)
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| Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
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| And there are some fantastic old Nikkors out there, some of them going for fairly low prices just because they don't fit the Nikon system any longer (at least, not without a difficult alteration to the lens mount) |
What???
1st of all: they're inexpensive because of large production volumes. 50 million Nikkors manufactured, the classic 55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor alone is about 400 000 manufactured before Ai-version came out.
2nd, with the exception of a handful of rare models, almost any Nikon lens made after 1959 works perfectly on any Nikon DSLR, amateur models just won't give you metering (pro models give you metering and aperture priority mode). Backwards compatibility is the main reason I'm a Nikon man, I'm using lenses my grandfather bought.
Ai modification of pre-Ai Nikkors (F 1959-1977) is so easy my girlfriend could do it. All it takes is 1 screwdriver and 5 minutes to remove old aperture ring and replace with factory spare part.
If Ai-conversion kit is not available as factory part (sold out in some cases) you can pay someone 35-50 USD for converting it. Service available from several on eBay Click here to see on Ebay as well as http://www.aiconversion.com
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Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180
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PaulC wrote:
Well, some people are more practical than others 
Whatever the reason, some excellent old Nikkors are available cheap.
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Arctures
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Arctures wrote:
Fernando those are beautiful samples!
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Minolta Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Minolta MC Rokkor-X PF 50/1.7, Minolta MD 50/2.0, Konica Hexanon AR 50/1.8,
Konica Hexanon 57/1.4, Rokkor-PF 55/1.7, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Auto Yashinon 50/2.0, Canon FD 50/3.5
Voigtl�nder APO Lanthar 90/3.5 M42, Topcon RE.Topcor 58/1.8, Helios-44-2 58/2.0, Canon FD 24/2.8,
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
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| The drawback, of course, is that you have to operate the focus and aperture for yourself, nothing is automatic (but we all like that here, don't we?) |
Some people actually like automatic aperture - which is of course available when you mount a Nikkor on a Nikon body.
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sichko wrote:
Fernando - I like the orange flower. Do yo know what it is called ?
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FernandoB12
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FernandoB12 wrote:
Thanks Arctures.
sichko, Unfortunatly I don't know. Next time I go to the Bothanic Garden I will try to get the name and let you know.
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SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4; SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8; Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9; Takumar S-M-C 120mm f/2.8; Takumar S-M-C 200mm f/4; Tele Takumar 300mm f/6.3
Vivitar Series 1 Macro 105mm 2.5
Helios M44-4 58mm f/2; Soligor 350mm f/5.6; Soligor 135mm f/2.8;
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