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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject: Zorki-4 first adventure |
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csaba369 wrote:
My new oldies:
First roll (only test pics):
I can't believe how an old zorki with jupiter can render colors.
The lens was a jupiter-12.
Scanned with Minolta 5400, but only 'prescan' about 640dpi.
The film is a 'super market quality' Fujicolor 100.
Lightmeter was 'sunny16'..., all shot about f11 _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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greg
Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 683
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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greg wrote:
I like the color and subjects, especially the girl and apple.
One thing I wonder about - you say these are scanned. Are they scanned from the negatives or prints ? Our local one hour labs tend to 'adjust' prints to their own liking. This is so common that I have stickers made that I put on the envelope holding the film for processing that say "Please Print As Shot. Do Not Adjust Color, Contrast or Brightness. Thank You"
Is this done in other places around the world ? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Try next time with slide you will be shocked I think ! _________________ -------------------------------
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
greg wrote: |
I like the color and subjects, especially the girl and apple.
One thing I wonder about - you say these are scanned. Are they scanned from the negatives or prints ? Our local one hour labs tend to 'adjust' prints to their own liking. This is so common that I have stickers made that I put on the envelope holding the film for processing that say "Please Print As Shot. Do Not Adjust Color, Contrast or Brightness. Thank You"
Is this done in other places around the world ? |
Hi Greg! Scanned from negative. I made only some fast, not perfect whitebalance correction _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
I love the look of the Zorki 4 camera. I think I should try to get one |
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Try next time with slide you will be shocked I think ! |
Ok, but not Velvia! Red will burn out my monitor... _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
csaba369 wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Try next time with slide you will be shocked I think ! |
Ok, but not Velvia! Red will burn out my monitor... |
Sensia 100 my suggestion. _________________ -------------------------------
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
The Jup-12 is a good one, I like it a lot. My Fed-3 doesn't look half as good as the Zorkis. When I bought it, I compared view finders to the Zorkis, a later version than yours, and the Zorki VF was better than the Fed, only the Fed's rf patch was clearer. So I went with the Fed. _________________ -Jussi
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
The Jup-12 is a good one, I like it a lot. My Fed-3 doesn't look half as good as the Zorkis. When I bought it, I compared view finders to the Zorkis, a later version than yours, and the Zorki VF was better than the Fed, only the Fed's rf patch was clearer. So I went with the Fed. |
I love the J12. It is sad that she will not fit in the R d1 or other modern RF's.
Recently I read that it has trouble even with the Pany G1. _________________ Moderator |
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
I am negotiating to have a Zorki-4 delivered to me. It was on posted locally about 3 hrs from my location. I have no clue whether it works or not, but the for the asking price of $10, I will give it a shot. It's s/n says it's made in 1973 and comes with 2/50 (Jupiter?).
From what I have read the Jup-12 you have is a very nice lens which will probably the lens I will be looking for if I get the Z4.
Anyway, the color from your J12 is very nice.
Cheers. |
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
I've just made a normal scan 3800x2500 2700dpi.
The sharpness is not bad, as good as my 350D with an average lens. And I can make 5700dpi too, which is almost 50x70cm print from 35mm neg....
and a 100% crop
I think this is not bad - the quality, not the pic... _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Crop is very pictorial like a paint..
If normal film this good on slide it will be lot better than 350D with any lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Some question:
- is there any good, not too expensive viewfinder(s) for 35/85/135mm lenses?
- can I use voigtlander lenses (classic m39) with zorki? Viewfinder will work? _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
csaba369 wrote: |
Some question:
- is there any good, not too expensive viewfinder(s) for 35/85/135mm lenses?
- can I use voigtlander lenses (classic m39) with zorki? Viewfinder will work? |
I think yes, Russian universal finder should ok and cheap
Yes you can use modern lenses too, but for example on Leica IIIb they doesn't powered range finder. Range finder didn't worked with Heliar 15mm (don't need really with 15mm lens) _________________ -------------------------------
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Crop is very pictorial like a paint..
If normal film this good on slide it will be lot better than 350D with any lens. |
I think the scanner is as important as lens. Minolta is really one of the best, I'm really happy with it. I have to buy a good lightmeter, sunny16 not enough for slides. Later I'll post some slide with zorki... _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I think yes, Russian universal finder should ok and cheap
Yes you can use modern lenses too, but for example on Leica IIIb they doesn't powered range finder. Range finder didn't worked with Heliar 15mm (don't need really with 15mm lens) |
Thank you Attila! _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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nemesis101
Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 2050 Location: Oregon USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: Pretty |
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nemesis101 wrote:
I like the colours, but is it my ancient eyes or does there appear to be a lot of sharpening artifacts in some of the shots?
Almost gives an oil painted look?
Probably just me!
Doug. _________________ Lenses and cameras:
Amateurs worry about equipment
Pros worry about money,
Masters worry about light. |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Pretty |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
nemesis101 wrote: |
I like the colours, but is it my ancient eyes or does there appear to be a lot of sharpening artifacts in some of the shots?
Almost gives an oil painted look?
Probably just me!
Doug. |
Looking at the tress in the background of the 2nd pic it does look as if something odd is going on.
Nice pics though from some great cameras. Film is still ahead on saturation in my book. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Ok men, as you asked:
Used Vuescan then Gimp for resize and crop, nothing more:
This is not my taste, I like post-procedure very much. _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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csaba369
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
And the last one, from 5400dpi (7597x4992 pixel)
I'll use digital only for macro and with long tele, film is much better for me than digital. Film has soul, sensitive stuff, pictorial if needed, really colorful.
Thank you for visiting. _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Do you have dust removal on? in the resulting pixel peep, sometimes that creates these sorts of artifacts. _________________ -Jussi
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csaba369
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
Do you have dust removal on? in the resulting pixel peep, sometimes that creates these sorts of artifacts. |
Yes, it was on. Next I'll try without it too, thank you. _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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csaba369
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Here you are, a simple scan turned off every luxury...
Do you see any difference? _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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zewrak
Joined: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1212
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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zewrak wrote:
Yes. I see a big difference. I say thats how you should scan it, from now on. _________________ My homepage, all manual shots |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Very big difference. Always use that setting from now on. It's much mroe realistic |
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