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huhging wrote:
I just bought it because I remember reading it's a very good lens...
It says it is Olympic version.
I've paid $150...
Is it a good lens?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:02 am Post subject: |
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shad309 wrote:
In a word, YES
I think you will like this lens a lot.
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Siswono wrote:
It's nice lens
sharp and nice bokeh also |
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PaulC wrote:
It's excellent - and has added bodybuilding health benefits. 
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martinsmith99 wrote:
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| It's excellent - and has added bodybuilding health benefits. |
A bit on the weighty side is it?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
If truly Olympic version not just good, rare too. I have several copies from Olympic,zebra and MC one Olympic is best from all.
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PaulC
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PaulC wrote:
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| It's excellent - and has added bodybuilding health benefits. |
A bit on the weighty side is it? |
Unless I am mistaken (and I might be) it is more or less the same as the Pentacon Six medium format 180 Sonnar, with all that the word "Pentacon Six" implies for weight, regardless of whether it has an M42 mount or a Pentacon/exacta one.
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huhging
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huhging wrote:
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| If truly Olympic version not just good, rare too. I have several copies from Olympic,zebra and MC one Olympic is best from all. |
Do you have a picture of Olympic version one?
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/olypic_sonnar180mm/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/sonnar/czj_sonnar_180mm_f2_8_balu/czj_olympic_sonnar_180mm_f2_8_balu-5.jpg.html
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hintheman
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hintheman wrote:
After I sold my 1st copy of this lens to a good friend of mine, I bought a 2nd copy in better condition as it has so much history that goes with this lens. I call the lens my Zebra Football lens. I don't think mine is the Olympia version.
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 (m42)
Czj Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 (m42) Test Shots
I find this link from cameraquest informative on the lens
http://www.cameraquest.com/oly180.htm
Thanks,
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eeyore_nl
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: CZJ 180/2.8 |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
| huhging wrote: |
I just bought it because I remember reading it's a very good lens...
It says it is Olympic version.
I've paid $150...
Is it a good lens? |
Yes, I would kill you for it! 
Congratulations! From what I saw, it is a super lens! |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Olympic Sonnar
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Oh, my god!!!
What a lens!!!
Now, three lenses to buy: biotar 1,5/75, 2,8/135 orestor and 2,8/180 CZJ Olympic Sonnar.
My wife will insist, and I will have to buy any for her too.
Rino.
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
Oh, my god!!!
What a lens!!!
Now, three lenses to buy: biotar 1,5/75, 2,8/135 orestor and 2,8/180 CZJ Olympic Sonnar.
My wife will insist, and I will have to buy any for her too.
Rino. |
Buy Pentacon 135mm f2.8 zebra instead of Orestegor if you can , even if they are same looking I think Pentacon pre-set even better.
I have 5 copies from Olympic Sonnar 180mm f2.8 one is reserved for you Rino if we can solve shipping/payment issue.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
Oh, my god!!!
What a lens!!!
Now, three lenses to buy: biotar 1,5/75, 2,8/135 orestor and 2,8/180 CZJ Olympic Sonnar.
My wife will insist, and I will have to buy any for her too.
Rino. |
Buy Pentacon 135mm f2.8 zebra instead of Orestegor if you can , even if they are same looking I think Pentacon pre-set even better.
I have 5 copies from Olympic Sonnar 180mm f2.8 one is reserved for you Rino if we can solve shipping/payment issue. |
Then, Pentacon will be.
Shipping seems to be impossible (not fot you, but for the people that work at the import office here - they lost, broke, and want to receive impossible taxes by the weight of the thing and not by its value except that for the price they could receive higher taxes) .
About the payment, sure no problems. You informed to me alternatives to pay pal and it's OK.
I hope that with a new administration, the things change and we pruned to be to the height of the rest of the world.
Thanks for all. Rino.
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Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
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Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
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Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
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mflex-on wrote:
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| Buy Pentacon 135mm f2.8 zebra instead of Orestegor if you can , even if they are same looking I think Pentacon pre-set even better. |
Simple Q: why?
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have several copies from both lenses and I found Pentacon zebra is sharper, better bokeh and better color rendering. Difference is not much but visible.
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huhging
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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huhging wrote:
I just received the lens today...
Is this Olympic version?
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huhging
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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huhging wrote:
it looks very similar to Attila's....
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Yes, Olympic version with custom mount , half of mine also converted. I hope you have same good copy what I have if yes you have a wonderful lens. Congrats!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: |
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horvlas wrote:
Attila! Is the Pentacon 2.8/100 also better than the orestor 2.8/100? Did you make a comparsion? |
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huhging
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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huhging wrote:
I just took a few test shots, and the bokeh of this lens is incredible.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Damn it, I didn't thought shipping is this hard... sorry Rino!
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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I just took a few test shots, and the bokeh of this lens is incredible.
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All copy what I have comes with georgeus bokeh all very sharp stopped down and some copy very sharp even at wide open.
Enjoy this rare opportunity!
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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| Attila! Is the Pentacon 2.8/100 also better than the orestor 2.8/100? Did you make a comparsion? |
I made test shoots with both of them I don't know there is any difference. You can compare by your self based on mflenses.com/gallery pictures.
I found Pentacon 100 crapiest built lens ever, hard to find immaculate copy. I have three of them all have some trouble.
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