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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: Flektogon 2.4/35 |
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Sven wrote:
There haven't been many opportunities for photography outdoors lately, but now we had a wonderful weekend (-5 C and sunny).
I took the chance to try out the Flektogon a bit more.
Basically I'm quite happy with it, especially the colurs, but the fact that the focus ring passes infinity can be annoying sometimes.
Most shots are from some old stables. They are still in use, but as a part of a recreational area, where riding is one possible activity.
Maybe not famous for the bokeh, but I don't think it's that bad.
Very basic design on this old tractor. Not much more than a motor and gearbox on wheels.
Frosty window
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SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lovely series! Book quality ! Many thanks for sharing them! _________________ -------------------------------
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horvlas
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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horvlas wrote:
Very good shots with a good lens! |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Thanks guys for your kind remarks.
The lens certainly has a special character. On sunny days like this it really excels with very blue skies and saturated colours.
On the Pentax I get correct light metering and with a wide angle I can set the DOF so it covers normal distances up to infinity. As easy as shooting AF. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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YureW
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Trieste, Italy
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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YureW wrote:
The Flektogon 35/2.4 is really a wonderful lens. Maybe my copy is not one of the best, because I've to close it beyond f/5.6 o f/8 to avoid soft corners. The Super Takumar 35/3.5 performs better at f/4 and f/5.6.
Is it my copy of the flek, or it is normal?
Another good thing about the flek is th performance in IR photo. Sharp, and no hot spots. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Oh don't get me started about this flipping lens again
Great shots with fantastic colours _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
YureW wrote: |
The Flektogon 35/2.4 is really a wonderful lens. Maybe my copy is not one of the best, because I've to close it beyond f/5.6 o f/8 to avoid soft corners. The Super Takumar 35/3.5 performs better at f/4 and f/5.6.
Is it my copy of the flek, or it is normal?
Another good thing about the flek is th performance in IR photo. Sharp, and no hot spots. |
On some shots I get the effect as on the picture below. This one is shot at f/4 (I think) and not cropped at all. I'm not sure if it's visible in lo-res, but the left bottom corner is not sharp but the right bottom corner is better. I thought that this maybe was due to some internal misalignment or maybe a fault on my M42 to Pentax K adapter, but I guess it might just be corner softness at low f-stops. I don't see it very often fortunately.
_________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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YureW
Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 45 Location: Trieste, Italy
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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YureW wrote:
Thank you, Sven.
I've the same effect with my flek, but on the right side. |
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sir_c
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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sir_c wrote:
IMHO, this looks more like a misaligned adapter ring, or maybe even some misaligned lens elements. Soft corner sharpness would be visible around all four corners of your image, not just one.
I own a couple of Zeisses (not the Flek 35/2.4 though) and none of them behave in such way.
Personally I'd try to get some other brand adapter ring (some extra always come in handy) and see if the effect disappears.
Crispian _________________
Fujifilm: X-T1 Graphite Silver
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Asahi Pentax (M42): - Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 24mm f/3.5, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super-Takumar 35mm f/3.5, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 35mm f/3.5, Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4, SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4, Super-Takumar 55mm f/1.8, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, SMC Takumar 55mm f/2, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-Takumar 100mm f/4, Auto-Takumar 105mm f/2.8, Super-Takumar 135mm f/3.5
Asahi Pentax (P/K): - SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/2, Takumar (bayonet) 135mm f/2.5
Carl Zeiss (C/Y): - Planar 50mm f/1.7, Planar 50mm f/1.4, Sonnar 135mm f/2.8, Planar 85mm f/1.4
Carl Zeiss Jena: - Aus Jena T 50mm f/2.8, Flektogon 35mm f/2.8, Flektogon 35mm f/2.4
Leica: - Elmarit-R 35mm f/2.8, Elmarit-R 90mm f/2.8, Elmarit-R 135mm f/2.8, Summicron-R 50mm f/2, Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4
Mamiya/Sekor: - Auto 50mm f/2, SX 55mm f/1.8, Macro Sekor 60mm f/2.8, SX 135mm f/2.8
Pentacon: - Auto 29mm f/2.8, Auto MC 50mm f/1.8, Auto 135mm f/2.8
Misc: - Meyer-Optik Görlitz Orestegor 200mm f/4, Petri Auto CC 55mm f/1.8, Soligor Tele Auto 300mm f/5.5
Russian: - Helios 44M-6 58mm f/2, Jupiter-9 85mm f/2, Tair 11A 135mm f/2.8
Tokina: - (P/K) RMC EMZ 70-210mm f/4.5
Yashica: - Auto 50mm f/2 (preset), DX 50mm f/1.7
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I had a very similar effect with my Pentax-M 1.7/50 and one PK-EOS-adapter.
First I thought the lens was broken, but when I tried another adapter the problem was gone! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Helios
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 537 Location: East of France
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Helios wrote:
hmmmm... I got similar issue with my copy.an internal ring was loose , and I got a "floating element" . this problem is not rare on this lens ! |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Sven wrote: |
YureW wrote: |
The Flektogon 35/2.4 is really a wonderful lens. Maybe my copy is not one of the best, because I've to close it beyond f/5.6 o f/8 to avoid soft corners. The Super Takumar 35/3.5 performs better at f/4 and f/5.6.
Is it my copy of the flek, or it is normal?
Another good thing about the flek is th performance in IR photo. Sharp, and no hot spots. |
On some shots I get the effect as on the picture below. This one is shot at f/4 (I think) and not cropped at all. I'm not sure if it's visible in lo-res, but the left bottom corner is not sharp but the right bottom corner is better. I thought that this maybe was due to some internal misalignment or maybe a fault on my M42 to Pentax K adapter, but I guess it might just be corner softness at low f-stops. I don't see it very often fortunately.
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Yes, I see this.
But remember that the lens at the corners - at F/4 is so-so sharpness while at the center is a very good lens. To improve borders, F/ 8 and 11 This is one of the reasons for which I prefer pancolar 1,8/50. Its yield is evener.
Anyway, it seems to be a missaligned rear element/s.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys!
If it was the adapter, wouldn't all shots show the same effect? Or would that also be F-stop related?
Since the problem seems to occur at random I guess it could also be an indication of something moving inside. Would there be anything observable on the outside if a floating element was the cause? _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
2 of 3 flektogons I had, suffered from this issue. It's easy to fix it.
Open the lens:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/uusilehto/img/lenses/zeiss/disass/
and check:
1. if the last optical element of the front block is not loosy (and tighten it)
2. if both optical blocks are screwed tightly to the aperture block _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Helios
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 537 Location: East of France
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Helios wrote:
Thanks , no-X , it was precisely the last element of the front block ! It is ear-detectable , like a full or empty cartridge ... |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
Thanks No-X
And such a good description as well. This will be an exercise for Saturday when the light is good. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/29261959@N08/
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Thanks no-X - very useful link
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:00 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
The link was posted by another member a few months ago. I just saved it (because it helped to me, too) and reposted it _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
I did lens maintenance according to this description today. Took less than 10 minutes, and sure enough the front lens in the rear lens assembly was loose and needed tightening.
Thanks No-x and also the forum member who originally posted this excellent description. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D200, Pentax *istDL, Nikon D100 IR converted
SLR: Pentax Spotmatic, Pentax ME,
Nikkor:N 2.8/24 H 3.5/28, 2/35, 2/50, 1.4/50 1.8/85, 3.5/50-135, E 2.8/100, P C 2.5/105, 2.8/135, 2.8/180 ED, 4/200,
M42: Pentacon 4/200, S Takumar 1.8/55, Meyer Orestor 2.8/135, CZJ Flektogon 2.4/35, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50, CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135
AF Lenses: Nikkor 1.8/50, Pentax 18-55
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/29261959@N08/
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
I don't know, but I think that many CZJ lenses suffer from very typical problems:
Pancolar Zebra 50/1.8 - blades stays wide-opened
Pancolar MC 50/1.8 - focusing is not uniform, oil on blades, blades don't close completely
Pancolar 55/1.4 - blades don't close completely
Flektogon MC 35/2.4 - loosy optical element
Sonnar MC 135/3.5 - real aperture values don't match the numbers on aperture ring _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Love the old stable and the others also. But most of all I love the Zeiss colors.
I have this lense, that I got from that Attila guy, LOL, and I love it. _________________ Ron |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
no-X wrote: |
I don't know, but I think that many CZJ lenses suffer from very typical problems:
Pancolar Zebra 50/1.8 - blades stays wide-opened
Pancolar MC 50/1.8 - focusing is not uniform, oil on blades, blades don't close completely
Pancolar 55/1.4 - blades don't close completely
Flektogon MC 35/2.4 - loosy optical element
Sonnar MC 135/3.5 - real aperture values don't match the numbers on aperture ring |
With my lenses:
Pancolar MC 1,8/50. I put it at the direct sun to UV, and nothing wrong. Blades are OK. Focusing like Rolls Royce. The unique non Leica M lens that I love. (near but no so, the hexanon 1,8/85).
Sonnar MC 3,5/135. No problems. All is OK
Flektogon MC 2,4/35 Optics elements OK. But blades. . . .dissapointing. And it's very unsharp at corners.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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sichko wrote:
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I don't know, but I think that many CZJ lenses suffer from very typical problems:
Pancolar Zebra 50/1.8 - blades stays wide-opened
Pancolar MC 50/1.8 - focusing is not uniform, oil on blades, blades don't close completely
Pancolar 55/1.4 - blades don't close completely
Flektogon MC 35/2.4 - loosy optical element
Sonnar MC 135/3.5 - real aperture values don't match the numbers on aperture ring |
There's something to be said for the Russian presets with nicely oiled blades. _________________ John |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
Expire: 2011-11-18
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
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Flektogon MC 2,4/35 Optics elements OK. But blades. . . .dissapointing. And it's very unsharp at corners |
I sympathize Rino. Mine is excellent but for the bottom left corner. All the elements are tight. Frustrating how fuzzy that corner is no amount of stopping down helps.
If I used it on a cropped sensor it would be perfect.
The colors from this lens are truly beautiful Zeiss _________________ Moderator |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
sichko wrote: |
There's something to be said for the Russian presets with nicely oiled blades. |
That's why I prefer Jupiter 37A over Sonnar 135/3.5. I had 3 copies of Jupiter - all of them perfect mechanic condition. Now I have 3 copies of Sonnar and every has an issue... Optical performance is similar (Jupiter has smoother bokeh due round iris) a Jupiter is 3 times cheaper... _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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