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Laurence
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 Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: Would Like Some Help with Choosing Lenses |
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Laurence wrote:
I want to put a good 28mm lens on my Sigma SD-14, so that with the crop factor it will become aprroximately equal to a 50mm "normal" lens.
There are so MANY 28s out there, but I am looking for a 28 in either screw mount or Pentax K bayonet-type mount.
If anyone could steer me in a proper direction, I would love your opinions. I have had good luck with Takumar lenses, and wonder if I should stick to that.
I have no problem with a "slow" lens, as I mostly shoot landscapes.
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Also, I have wanted a 300 or 400 lens for my forays out to a local bird sanctuary. I have been using an old Vivitar 100-300/5, and it is pretty bad, with purple fringing and very soft even at f:8 or f:11. 
There is a chance that I can get a Meyer Orestegor 300/4 for less than $40. It is mint, I've already seen it and worked the functions off-camera. Perhaps one or two dust specks is all. Would this be a viable lens to use, or is there something sharper out there?
In this case, with shooting the birds, I have the emphasis on "sharp" more than other factors. Would be using a Wemberley mount on the tripod.
I could also get a Meyer Telemegor 400/5.5, not sure of the price, maybe $60 from the same guy.
THANKS as always!
Laurence
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Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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bawang
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bawang wrote:
Hi Larry,
First, I enjoyed looking at your MFormat pics to a point I have gotten itchy for a Yashica 124/G 
The only 28 in M42 that I have experienced is the S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28. It's a sharp lens, but I cannot say anything about FF corner performance with any proof, but on crop, it sharp enough. The color is typical of other S-M-C Takumar lens.
Unfortunately mine does not get used as often since the Yashica ML 2.8/28 and Zuiko 3.5/28 are simply better. It is like new with case and hood. In fact, I am thinking of selling it to raise cash to get a 5D to replace my 20D with the dying shutter.
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F16SUNSHINE
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Hi Larry
I have an interesting lens you may want to check out.
It's a Yashica DSM 2.8/24mm in m42.
I think it is an exact ringer for the ML2.8/24 but in screw mount.
The coating and body look the same and performance is not distinguishable between the two.
Keep an eye out for them as well as the DSM2.8/28 who is also the exact of the ML 2.8/28.
If you want to try mine I'm happy to send it over.
Lot's of guys here find the ML24 to be a very tip top lens. Comparable to the distagon 25(although I have never used that lens).
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
HI, Laurence!!
In M42, the guys have say everything, to my taste.
In K mount, did you see http://www.pbase.com/steephill/mtf_data ?
Perhaps can help you.
I like the meyer 400. I don't have it but I should use it for your type of work.
Good luck.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
The Orestegor 300/4 for $40 is a great bargain, grab it if you can. The resale value is over $100, especially if its in M42.
The older Telemegor 300/4.5 is a great lens, but hard to find in M42.
My Telemegor 400/5.5 isn't very sharp, quite soft and flare-ey wide open, and just plain off even stopped down. That may just be mine, but even so.
I've had much better results from a cheap $20 Spiratone 400/6.3.
The best long lenses I've got are the magnificent Komura 400/6.3 and Schneider Tele-Xenar 360/5.5
There are lots of great cheap 300mm's, at least in my opinion, though I may not be the most discriminating fellow.
One to start with, instantly available and very cheap (don't pay more than $20), is the Vivitar/Soligor/Sears/Mamiya/etc. 300/5.5, made by Tokina and sold by almost everyone in the late 1960's-early 1970's. Its a heavy chunky thing with a large tripod mount, you can't miss it.
http://forum.mflenses.com/a-lens-with-many-names-t6207,highlight,sears+300.html
I need to re-do these sample pictures. they don't do it justice.
Another good one thats easy enough to find is the Tamron Adaptamatic 300/5.6 - you will have to find one in M42, or grab another Adaptamatic like the 135 for the mount.
http://forum.mflenses.com/tamron-adaptamatic-300-5-6-my-last-adaptamatic-t14537,highlight,tamron+300.html
Yet another cheap one is the old preset Tokina 300/5.5, also made under many names -
http://forum.mflenses.com/caspeco-old-tokina-300-5-5-preset-t2-mount-t12261,highlight,sears+300.html
The biggest problems with this are longer minimum focus.
" target="_blank">Click here to see on Ebay
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voytek
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voytek wrote:
Larry
I can not advise you with long tele (ask Luis about long Tamrons, Tokinas, Soligors, Lentars) but regarding wide one I know some good lenses. I don't know about range of crop compare to 35mm but some tips regarding quality: above average and very good. Also very good means pretty expensive in some cases. I do not know Nikons, Pentax, Olympus, Canon
Tamron SP AD2 3.5/17 rating very good/one of the best in its class, price about $170-$230 depends on condition. AD2
Flektogon 4/20 rating one of the best in its class, price about $180-250 depends on condition.M42
Flektogon 2.8/20 rating one of the top in its class, price range $280-350 M42
Below $100:
Enna Panorama 4/24 very sharp lens, underrated M42
Vivitar 3.8/19 - this one has mixed ratting PK
Chinar 2.8/28 average PK
Vivitar 2.5/28 I have very good copy. M42.
I hope it will help you a little
In addition:
Few days ago I've tested the same lens like this Click here to see on Ebay. I was very disappointed. Lens was in outstanding condition something like 10- in scale 1 to 10. But totally soft wide open.
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bawang
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bawang wrote:
Andy,
I cannot find any reference on that lens. If it's anywhere near the ML, this will be one to look for. Perhaps, you (or Larry) can give us a review of it.
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Hi Larry
I have an interesting lens you may want to check out.
It's a Yashica DSM 2.8/24mm in m42.
I think it is an exact ringer for the ML2.8/24 but in screw mount.
The coating and body look the same and performance is not distinguishable between the two.
Keep an eye out for them as well as the DSM2.8/28 who is also the exact of the ML 2.8/28.
If you want to try mine I'm happy to send it over.
Lot's of guys here find the ML24 to be a very tip top lens. Comparable to the distagon 25(although I have never used that lens). |
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Voytek,
Very interesting ! Reputation or brand are certainly not everything !
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
THANK YOU all of you! I think this is enough information to keep me happy for a while! 
I truly appreciate it, this will help me narrow things down.
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Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| voytek wrote: |
Larry
I can not advise you with long tele (ask Luis about long Tamrons, Tokinas, Soligors, Lentars) but regarding wide one I know some good lenses. I don't know about range of crop compare to 35mm but some tips regarding quality: above average and very good. Also very good means pretty expensive in some cases. I do not know Nikons, Pentax, Olympus, Canon
Tamron SP AD2 3.5/17 rating very good/one of the best in its class, price about $170-$230 depends on condition. AD2
Flektogon 4/20 rating one of the best in its class, price about $180-250 depends on condition.M42
Flektogon 2.8/20 rating one of the top in its class, price range $280-350 M42
Below $100:
Enna Panorama 4/24 very sharp lens, underrated M42
Vivitar 3.8/19 - this one has mixed ratting PK
Chinar 2.8/28 average PK
Vivitar 2.5/28 I have very good copy. M42.
I hope it will help you a little
In addition:
Few days ago I've tested the same lens like this Click here to see on Ebay. I was very disappointed. Lens was in outstanding condition something like 10- in scale 1 to 10. But totally soft wide open.
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HI, VOYTEK
Surprise thing for my! Since the lens was one of the selected ones by Alpa for its system. And it is known that Alpa selected only very good lenses.
Very useful data for my. Thanks
Greetings. RINO.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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