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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: Yashica Electro GX open thread |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I wanted to just get a thread open here for this camera.
Mathias, Iha, Myself and others have this superstar last of the line Electro.
It is actually the least flexible of the full blown Electro Cameras.
The camera has film speed range between 25-800 and has no bulb setting.
The lens is a super Gem. A slightly wider 40mm from the earliest G/GS/GSN cameras 45mm.
My feeling is the coatings are improved but who knows. Take a look at the pics looking thru water. There is no filter on the lens.
I hope others will contribute to this thread. This is the first color roll that I have and only to date.
These are cheapy lab scans of fuji 160S film.
Camera came in chrome and also Rare Black
A look at Bokeh and skin rendering
Her majesty Bathing (she wishes it was still summer me too )
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2108 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
All are nice scenes and good shots.
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Prometheus
Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 878 Location: Garphyttan, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Prometheus wrote:
Nice, the riverimages makes me wanna go fishing
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ryan s
Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 384 Location: Madison, WI
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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ryan s wrote:
How is the physical size compared to the GS series? _________________ Pentax Bodies: K10D + D-BG2 | MX |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Hi Ryan
The GX is smaller than the G,GS,GSN group.
It is actually just a tad larger than a Canonet.QL17.
Here is a link to a quick Yashica Rangefinder tour I threw together.
http://forum.mflenses.com/yashica-rangefinders-t9943.html
Please feel free to drop any questions you have on me.
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: Which Electro, the GX or CC? |
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bawang wrote:
The pictures posted here are making the Yashica Electro too difficult to avoid. I found 2 sellers trying to sell a GX and another CC. Unfortunately, I can only afford to buy one. Which would your recommend?
Thanks. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Of the two, I'd get the CC, wider lens, and much harder to find. |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
The late Yashica Electro RFs have some limitations the original series didn't have - stupid "auto" flash features (forcing exposure to 1/30 whenever a flash is connected or mounted) which destroy the excellent fill-in flash capabilities of the original, a much more limited ISO range and the loss of parallax compensation. Rather a lot of missing features for a modest downsizing that still resulted in a camera bigger than many rangefinder contemporaries, like the 7sII (which had time or aperture display in the finder, while Yashica stuck to its mere over/under light).
Among the late Electros, only the 35CC has something to make up for that feature shrink: A high quality 1.8/35mm lens. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Hi Sevo
Please allow me to provide some clarity on some of this.
The GX and CC cams do have some missing features but they are not as limited as you may think.
True Neither have a bulb setting.
The CC has a cold shoe, sync port and, indeed lacks paralax correction. There are a second set of frame lines (corners only) in the VF.
The shutter does default to 1/30th when you plug a flash in to the port.
The longest shutter time on the CC is 15 seconds. Compare that to 30 seconds on most other Electros.
The GX has a hot shoe with a third contact. This is for a dedicated flash that uses Guide number info from the camera to determine flash output.
The GX does have paraalax correction.
The flash will sync at any speed. When the flash is on the camera the slowest speed is 1/30th. The light meter determines the speeds with flash or without. In other words fill flash full time.
My experience is that the GX has the best lens of the entire Electro line up (although all are beyond excellent).
The coatings seem improved and the aperture has six blades rather than 5.
Khidhir if you can take a GX and it is fully functional you should not pass it up. Expect to pay up to $250 depending on who else is looking.
I sold a black one last year for $350 to a guy who could not wait for bidding to finish.
I have 2 chrome ones coming up for sale. Both have had a complete CLA and are fully functional and film tested.
I also have 2 CC's coming up that are also CLA'd and fully functional.
The CC is my favorite low light film shooter. The combo of a sharp wide open 1.8/35 and step-less leaf shutter to 15 seconds is too good.
The CC does have an odd 2 leaf aperture that can be troublesome in sunny conditions.
I don't want to say it is not excellent because it is. It is more specialized and is not a great all around performer.
Don't take it to the beach and expect perfect peformance. _________________ Moderator |
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Thanks Andy. I hope the GX seller will reply soon and can complete the transaction. In addition, the CC seller might want more than I would like to spend at the moment even though I would love to have the 1.8/33mm. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
Hi Sevo
Please allow me to provide some clarity on some of this.
The GX and CC cams do have some missing features but they are not as limited as you may think.
True Neither have a bulb setting.
The CC has a cold shoe, sync port and, indeed lacks paralax correction. There are a second set of frame lines (corners only) in the VF.
The shutter does default to 1/30th when you plug a flash in to the port.
The longest shutter time on the CC is 15 seconds. Compare that to 30 seconds on most other Electros.
The GX has a hot shoe with a third contact. This is for a dedicated flash that uses Guide number info from the camera to determine flash output.
The GX does have paraalax correction.
The flash will sync at any speed. When the flash is on the camera the slowest speed is 1/30th. The light meter determines the speeds with flash or without. In other words fill flash full time.
My experience is that the GX has the best lens of the entire Electro line up (although all are beyond excellent).
The coatings seem improved and the aperture has six blades rather than 5.
Khidhir if you can take a GX and it is fully functional you should not pass it up. Expect to pay up to $250 depending on who else is looking.
I sold a black one last year for $350 to a guy who could not wait for bidding to finish.
I have 2 chrome ones coming up for sale. Both have had a complete CLA and are fully functional and film tested.
I also have 2 CC's coming up that are also CLA'd and fully functional.
The CC is my favorite low light film shooter. The combo of a sharp wide open 1.8/35 and step-less leaf shutter to 15 seconds is too good.
The CC does have an odd 2 leaf aperture that can be troublesome in sunny conditions.
I don't want to say it is not excellent because it is. It is more specialized and is not a great all around performer.
Don't take it to the beach and expect perfect peformance. |
Nice evaluation!! Complete and subjetive with the reasons.
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Thank you Rino!
Very kind of you to say. _________________ Moderator |
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Got myself another Electro RF, a black GX. It was from a Craigslist listing. Unfortunately it's not working at the moment.
Comparing it to the GL - I like the smaller size of the GX. But the ISO 1600 on the GL will definitely be an advantage (if I can find the film for it in this small student town).
This is its condition when it was received - the film advance lever cannot be advanced (since it's already advanced), the self time is engaged and the shutter release button is free as if it was pressed and waiting for the self timer to start the countdown.
Any idea what to do? |
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
bawang wrote: |
This is its condition when it was received - the film advance lever cannot be advanced (since it's already advanced), the self time is engaged and the shutter release button is free as if it was pressed and waiting for the self timer to start the countdown.
Any idea what to do? |
I have been doing some more reading and is wondering whether the problem with my GX is similar to the famous 'Pad of Death' commonly found in the other G series (GSN, GTN, GT, etc)?
It is as if something is not kicking the shutter to release, in my case release the self-timer mechanism?
If so, where would the pad be hiding in the GX?
What say you?
Thanks. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
It could be simpler than all that.
Timers are notorious for ruining otherwise perfect cameras.
If a bit of dust or grease gets in the works it can lock up the entire shutter.
here is a link to a page that describes and shows you the shutter assembly.
http://pheugo.com/cameras/index.php?page=copalmxv
The first thing to try is to get back to the timer mechanism and put one drop of lighter fluid on the timer.
You may now gently coax the timer to run and may find the thing gets to buzzing and the shutter fires.
Once you have the timer freed up. NEVER USE IT AGAIN .......Seriously
Here is a link to Matt Dentons Yashica GSN dismantle page. If you scroll down you will see the steps to get back to the shutter.
This should give you the steps required even though the GX is different in many ways.
Just go slow and keep all the parts in order and it will go back together no worries.
http://mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/electro_inside/index.html
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Thanks Andy.
I visited those sites earlier and was also wondering about the POD. But after what you wrote, I will give it a shot.
Thanks for the encouragement. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
I didn't heard good thing about these aux lenses. _________________ -------------------------------
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