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lumens pixel
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 Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:42 pm Post subject: Testing Tokina SD 270 & SZ-X 845 |
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lumens pixel wrote:
I have used Tokina SD 270 28-70 3,5/4,5 and Tokina SZ-X 845 80-200 4,5/5,6 on my A7II. Sometimes you just want to be able to take good pics, cover a wide range of focal lengths and do not want to feel crushed under the weight.
Of course you have a number of good recent 28-200 modern lenses. But if you want to stay cheap and light Tokina SZ-X lenses are an option.
I bought these two lenses long time ago. Both seemed to suffer some tilt of the focal plane. The 28-70 270 SD seemed to suffer from sharpness variation on the frame sometimes in the midzone that I could not understand. The 80 200 845 was unequally sharp on the left and right part of the frame. I tossed some copies of these lenses.
A few weeks ago I shimmed again my Canon FD adapter and since my Tokinas are FD mount equipped I took them out of the cupboard and was pleasantly surprised. Since the contrast of these lenses is inferior to Canon or Minolta lenses I commonly use it is less easy to focus exactly which might sometimes disappoint. But when you nail focus results are nice.
The first one has the size of a 50 1,4 (a legacy one, not a Sigma ART behemoth) and the second the size of a 135 3,5.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D)
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Not bad at all! |
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
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| Not bad at all! |
Yep. These lenses are floating designs and it is easy to ruin the output with the adapters. This probably explains the very mixed opinions you read on the web.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Paris Court of justice, Tokina 270:
 Palais de justice de Paris | Paris Court of justice by lumens pixel, sur Flickr
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:01 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Looks good to me 👠|
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Tokina SD 270 again. Sometimes the pics are sharp and often extra sharp and I do not now how I manage to get there. This one was extra sharp.
 Chaos et lumière | Chaos and light by lumens pixel, sur Flickr
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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alex_d
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:23 am Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
very decent, still has lot of analogue feel in pics |
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:24 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Agreed. here is a 100% crop:
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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alex_d
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
kind of ".. sharp but soft .."  |
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
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| kind of ".. sharp but soft .." |
Joking aside there is something true in your words. Canon sharpness is crunchy, Minolta more delicate and here there is a lot of resolution but even less inky black contrast. So you have to adjust in post to your taste. Very peculiar and I am not sure I can define it precisely.
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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Ultrapix
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
From these pictures I'd say that the 28-70 is much sharper than most of legacy 28mm primes |
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alex_d
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
well im not joking,
my quote sounds silly but those words are kind of simple & healthy logic,
without being extra ordinary very mega super smart with fansy hipster terminology 3d pop thingy .. |
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lumens pixel
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
| alex_d wrote: |
well im not joking,
my quote sounds silly but those words are kind of simple & healthy logic,
without being extra ordinary very mega super smart with fansy hipster terminology 3d pop thingy .. |
Now I am lost 
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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