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eeyore_nl
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 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: Pentacon 1.8/50 lens? |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Did Chinon ever sell a 1.8/50 lens? I read about the f/1.7 and f/1.9 50mm lenses, but nothing about the f/1.8.
Would it be worth $10 plus a one hour drive to pick it up, or would it probably be a below-average lens?
Thanks in advance!
(later it turned out that it was a Pentacon 1.8/50)
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mkleywegt
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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mkleywegt wrote:
Don't know if chinon made a 1.8.
just discovered i seem to have a 1.4 and i like it. Usually 10 euro for a 1.8 is okay. but i personally wouldn't spend an hour drive for it. |
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eeyore_nl
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
It turns out that the 50mm is a Pentacon ... but for that $10, he also throws a Chinon 135mm in the package.
Makes it more tempting, even if the Pentacon probably isn't worth the drive. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
I never seen bad 50mm lens and also never seen bad lens from Chinon. They didn't make superb lenses but never made bad ones either.
You can buy extremely good 50mm lenses from many vendor on low prices.
Like Carl Zeiss, Nikon etc. I pay 100 USD for a Carl Zeiss lens instead of 10 USD for a third party lens. 10 USD lens can be ok, so-so , but never WOW like first class vendors.
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eeyore_nl
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
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It turns out that the 50mm is a Pentacon ... but for that $10, he also throws a Chinon 135mm in the package.
Makes it more tempting, even if the Pentacon probably isn't worth the drive. |
Well, I decided to pick up both lenses for $10 anyway, since I was in the neightbourhood. They both look clean, and seem to work properly. I haven't tried the 135mm yet, but here is a first shot with the Pentacon 1.8/50 (unfortunately in low light at iso800):
Very nice that the minimum focus distance is only 33cm 
(contrast was adjusted in Gimp, picture shot at iso800, in Landscape mode on a Canon 30D).
Not bad for a $5 lens  |
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McCroskey42
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McCroskey42 wrote:
I really like my Chinon 135:
Mechanically it's well built, comes with a sliding lens hood, and although the bokeh isn't anything special it's certainly capable of taking nice pictures. It was thrown in with a CZJ Tessar for an extra $15, so I can't complain about the price, even if it was three times more expensive than your copy |
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koji wrote:
Don't underestimate Pentacon 50/1.8. 
Here is Prakticar 50/1.8 (third model), same as Pentacon 50/1.8 which
was originally "Oreston 50/1.8" with a possibly better coating.
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orly_andico
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orly_andico wrote:
close focus at 0.33m?
sounds like a Pancolar!
isn't the Pentacon a re-badged Pancolar? if so then that's quite a bargain at $10... |
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eeyore_nl
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eeyore_nl wrote:
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close focus at 0.33m?
sounds like a Pancolar!
isn't the Pentacon a re-badged Pancolar? if so then that's quite a bargain at $10... |
$5
No, as far as I know it's a Meyer Oreston design. |
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Attila wrote:
A good lens , but not Pancolar that for sure.Pancolar even better.
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eeyore_nl
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eeyore_nl wrote:
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Very nice that the minimum focus distance is only 33cm
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The Canon EF 50/1.8 is a bit sharper (wide open) and has more contrast. But the shortest focus distance is only 45cm, and the out of focus areas are more harsh. So the Pentacon is a nice addition for close-up pictures (not real macro of course).
About the Chinon 135; my "aus Jena" Sonnar 135mm is definitely better! |
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spiralcity wrote:
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Very nice that the minimum focus distance is only 33cm
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The Canon EF 50/1.8 is a bit sharper (wide open) and has more contrast. But the shortest focus distance is only 45cm, and the out of focus areas are more harsh. So the Pentacon is a nice addition for close-up pictures (not real macro of course).
About the Chinon 135; my "aus Jena" Sonnar 135mm is definitely better! |
Your actually comparing a Zeiss to a Chinon ? Shame on you!   |
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Attila wrote:
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| eeyore_nl wrote: |
Very nice that the minimum focus distance is only 33cm
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The Canon EF 50/1.8 is a bit sharper (wide open) and has more contrast. But the shortest focus distance is only 45cm, and the out of focus areas are more harsh. So the Pentacon is a nice addition for close-up pictures (not real macro of course).
About the Chinon 135; my "aus Jena" Sonnar 135mm is definitely better! |
Your actually comparing a Zeiss to a Chinon ? Shame on you! |
Try some Chinon, they are not reach Zeiss but very close to it.
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spiralcity wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| spiralcity wrote: |
| eeyore_nl wrote: |
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Very nice that the minimum focus distance is only 33cm
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The Canon EF 50/1.8 is a bit sharper (wide open) and has more contrast. But the shortest focus distance is only 45cm, and the out of focus areas are more harsh. So the Pentacon is a nice addition for close-up pictures (not real macro of course).
About the Chinon 135; my "aus Jena" Sonnar 135mm is definitely better! |
Your actually comparing a Zeiss to a Chinon ? Shame on you! |
Try some Chinon, they are not reach Zeiss but very close to it. |
Hi Attila,
I own a bunch of Chinon and Chinar glass. I truly dont find it to be quite as good as Zeiss or even Nikon.
I like my Chinon glass and I collect Chinon camera's but I wouldnt compare the glass to Zeiss.
Just my opinion. |
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Attila wrote:
I think you have right in this case, I tested only 135mm Chinon lens and perhaps one more both were pretty good close to Carl Zeiss Jena.
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dekiller
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dekiller wrote:
As I read from local MF forum. Somebody had open up around 10 Pentacon 1.8/50mm, and, found them have different structure from Meyer 1.8/50mm. So, it was not a re-badged Meyer as listed. |
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Rob Leslie wrote:
I picked up a pentacon auto f1.8/50 Multi coated in A1 condition attached to a Praktica MTL 3 at a boot sale a few weeks ago.
I tried a few shoots at f5.6 with it and was surprised how good they were. I haven't had time to try the lens properly and see what it is like at wider apertures so can’t say it is very good or not. I expect it will be a while before I do. You do have to have a lot of bad luck to find a 50mm lens which isn't any good when stopped down to f5.6 or so. perhaps the best of the Car boot bargains is the cute little Industar.
The price £1. inc camera which I have now thrown away. I offered it for free but nobody even wanted to pay the postage.
The Pentacon f1.8 50mm is a very common lens which can often be found at Boot sales, charity shops etc for next to nothing. Every week I see a Helios, Industar, Lydith or Pentacon for a £1 or 2.
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