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martinsmith99
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: `Image' by Vivitar? |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I've seen a few of these come up recently. Mainly an 80-200 zoom but I've just noticed a MC Vivitar 28-70/3.9-4.8 Macro Zoom Lens.
Any views on these lenses?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Around 85-205 fix 3.8 macro lens is a pretty good one and dirt cheap.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/luisalegria/viv85205/
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/vivitar/
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Thanks Attila, but I was talking specifically about the ones that had the `Image' brand name.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I couldn't follow you.
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The lens was labeled "IMAGE by Vivitar".
Maybe some kind of rebranding of another lens. There was one on ebay earlier. I just wondered if it was really a Vivitar or some cheap junk lens.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I never seen any lens with this label, pretty good chance this one was crap or below average.
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martinsmith99
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
There was a boxed one earlier which showed the IMAGE logo but there's a listing on the auction site now item number 230301665614.
I thought it may be junk but sometimes there is a gem.
Are the all the Series 1 Vivitars decent quality?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I had many of them all was decent quality lenses, but not better than equivalent Nikkor lenses and not much weaker more less same but different a bit.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Martin, I have the MC Vivitar Image 28-70/1:3.9-4.8 zoom. It came with a K2 camera I bought. Attila is right - it's not exactly a Canon L! I wouldn't bother 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Thanks guys. Very helpful as ever.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I don't have a Series 1 Viv, but from what I've heard they're excellent quality if you like zooms, equivalent to Tamron SP.
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j.lukow wrote:
If the eBay merchant was North American then the lens may have been rebadged for one of the photoshop chains - in Canada I think Blacks / Astral Photo.
I have a 135 that I've always found decent.
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patrickh wrote:
Viv Series 1 lenses are usually pretty good, but check out the monaghan listings on this forum for "cult" lenses. I have two of the Ser 1 macro lenses and both are fabulous, I also have the 135/2.8 close focus which is great. There is a strange "AF" 200/3.5 that is extremely sharp also. Check around, they can be pretty good
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spiralcity wrote:
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| I had many of them all was decent quality lenses, but not better than equivalent Nikkor lenses and not much weaker more less same but different a bit. |
Maybe not better than Nikkor but most are cheaper. 
I like the Series 1 Vivitars, they are decent lenses. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Well know ones like 200mm f3, 135mm f2.3 , 28mm f1.9 etc prices are same than Nikkor not cheaper at all mostly higher.
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Arlon wrote:
Check the serial number if you can. Vivitar didn't make their own lenses but the SN will tell you who did make it. Some are gmes, some aren't.
SN starting with 22 is Kiron, never had a bad "22" lens.
other numbers: http://www.cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
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Check the serial number if you can. Vivitar didn't make their own lenses but the SN will tell you who did make it. Some are gmes, some aren't.
SN starting with 22 is Kiron, never had a bad "22" lens.
other numbers: http://www.cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm |
Agreed about 22 and also 28 (Komine). But I think this only works for lenses made before around 1990. My Viv Image zoom is s/no 77700386 - it's not on the list, so I guess it was made after 1990
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have great experience with serial started 37xxx
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Russ
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
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| Arlon wrote: |
Check the serial number if you can. Vivitar didn't make their own lenses but the SN will tell you who did make it. Some are gmes, some aren't.
SN starting with 22 is Kiron, never had a bad "22" lens.
other numbers: http://www.cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm |
Agreed about 22 and also 28 (Komine). But I think this only works for lenses made before around 1990. My Viv Image zoom is s/no 77700386 - it's not on the list, so I guess it was made after 1990 |
Your serial/numbered 7770086 lens, was mady by Kobori. Kobori didn't make any of the Series 1 lenses. But, the Kobori models are usually decent in quality and well built. That Vivitar production code that is floating around the Internet is not entirely correct. There are some mistakes and missing #'s. I'll have to correct it sometime soon. I've attached a snap of the Kobori made Vivitar 28-105. A decent lens, but nowhere near the quality of the superb Kiron 28-105.
Russ (Kiron Kid & Mr.Viv.Series1)
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Russ wrote:
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| I have great experience with serial started 37xxx |
The #37xxxx lenses were made by Tokina, and are usually very good when in the Series 1 line.
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Russ
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There is a strange "AF" 200/3.5 that is extremely sharp also. Check around, they can be pretty good.
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Indeed. I agree. In one test, it bested the legendary Nikon 180mm prime. Here's a snap I made while handholding the Viv S-1 200mm f/3.5AF lens.
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