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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: tak 300mm help needed Reply with quote

Hi everybody

Rcently got a super takumar300mm glass in perfect condition, not even a speck of dust anywhere
I.m using it on the 20D with a normal non focus confirm adapter at the moment but are not happy with the results images seems soft and not contrasty enough even when stopped down a stop or 2

is this a bad copy, or maybe a focus problem ? ...maybe i'm expecting too much from a 30 year old lens ?
included is a fullsized image and actual pixel centre and side crops
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Please help !


PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Rcently got a super takumar300mm glass in perfect condition, not even a speck of dust anywhere"

The Tak F4 300mm is a super lens very sharp from f5.6 and not too bad wide open. 'Perfect glass with not even a speck of dust' could mean it has been taken apart by an 'Expert'


PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/takumar/smc_takumar_300mm_f4/smc_takumar_300mm_f4-02.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

You can see on above link my copy , very sharp even at wide open.

I suggest to try your lens on an easy subject like temple use a tripod and if you will see still not sharp , you have a bad copy. In this case perhaps same elements not in genuine position and lens will fixable.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:

You can see on above link my copy , very sharp even at wide open.


Wow Attila.. you have really sharp copy....


PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rob and Attila
Will put on a tripod and do a few shots , if stil not sharp will open up and check for marks on screws to see if it has been opened up before and something maybe out of alignment or loose


PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ballu wrote:
Attila wrote:

You can see on above link my copy , very sharp even at wide open.


Wow Attila.. you have really sharp copy....


Thanks Ballu! Unfortunately I sold already. My heart is German I kept Carl Zeiss Sonnar 300mm f4 (and Nikon 300mm Wink )


PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the old monster preset Takumar 300/4, and even that is much sharper than what you are getting. You should be getting better results.

Attila is right, you need to test it under controlled conditions.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Focus confirmation? Reply with quote

I've got a long Tak that I've used on my 20D and I find I can't depend on my focus confirmation chip to get precise focus; it was sometimes perfect, other times not. When you set up on the tripod for your test, you may want to consider that.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Focus confirmation? Reply with quote

rayatphonix wrote:
I've got a long Tak that I've used on my 20D and I find I can't depend on my focus confirmation chip to get precise focus; it was sometimes perfect, other times not. When you set up on the tripod for your test, you may want to consider that.

thanks ,will do maybe take quite alot of shots snd take it from there. I am still focusing with viewfinder (adapter has not arived yet)


PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

without split screen or AF adapter focusing well pure luck only, might be this is your problem only.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
without split screen or AF adapter focusing well pure luck only, might be this is your problem only.


Have another week or so to wait for the adapter
I hope you'r right !


PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try focusing on something at infinity, like a church steeple. that way (assuming the lens is properly calibrated) you just need to set it at infinity and it should be in focus.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

orly_andico wrote:
try focusing on something at infinity, like a church steeple. that way (assuming the lens is properly calibrated) you just need to set it at infinity and it should be in focus.


Here is one set at infinity on tripod with mirror lock and bit of sharpen in raw (20D is normally oversoft )[img]http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/895_tak_latest_1.jpg


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a shot to compare it to.
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-moon-t12411.html