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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: Qestion about Spiratone lens... |
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spiralcity wrote:
I won this lens on eaby. I never used a Spiratone so I thought I would give it a shot and see how it performed. The price was right and I was one of only two bidders.
SPIRATONE 2.8/135mm M42 SCREW MOUNT
My question is : Was Spiratone only a distributor or did they manufacture lenses?
Also : If they where only distributors I would like to know which company or companies manufactured their lenses.
Does anyone have any input on the lens I posted?
It would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Kevin |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Spiratone was a distributor and mail-order dealer.
They sold stuff from a vast range of manufacturers.
Your lens looks like a late 1950's-early 1960's item, fixed mount apparently, so I would tend to give it an earlier date. I can't tell if it resembles any particular lens with a known manufacturer.
We could use a bigger picture, maybe something will click. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Qestion about Spiratone lens... |
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Abbazz wrote:
spiralcity wrote: |
My question is : Was Spiratone only a distributor or did they manufacture lenses?
Also : If they where only distributors I would like to know which company or companies manufactured their lenses. |
Congratulations on your new puchase, Kevin. I don't know anything about the lens you just bought but I can tell you that Spiratone was a company founded by the late Fred Spira, a photo enthusiast, who did market some very clever devices. He didn't manufacture the items, but he was the first to import Japanese photographic accessories into the USA. He was not only a distributor, as he also had some items customized or specially made to his specs. The items sold under the Spiratone brand came from a wide range of Japanese manufacturers. Usually their quality is very good. Please post some pictures taken with your lens.
Cheers!
Abbazz
Edit: Sorry I didn't see Luis' post when I posted mine. _________________ Il n'y a rien dans le monde qui n'ait son moment decisif, et le chef-d'oeuvre de la bonne conduite est de connaitre et de prendre ce moment. - Cardinal de Retz
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 750 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
In the early 70s Spiratone bought lenses from Sigma and Sun. They had two versions of an 18mm wide angle. One from Sigma, then later from Tokina. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
Thanks to all for the replys.
Here are some larger files of the lens.
Hopefully someone will know something about this lens.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The styling reminds me of a 1950's Tamron, like the 135/4.5.
These were often sold through third parties in those days, like Taika/Aetna and Soligor, so why not Spiratone ? There were a number of undocumented fixed-mount designs made by Taisei Kogaku (later Tamron). This could be one of them. The 135/4.5 Tamron I have from this period is very good.
Alternately, it has some structural similarities with an early 135/2.8 t-mount Accura I have that I suspect may be a Tokina (Tokyo Koki). Thats a pretty good lens also.
The third guess is Cosina, unfortunately I have only seen what are probably a later preset series.
The fourth, fifth and sixth possibilities are Fujita, Komine(Nittoh Kogaku) and Kiron (Kino). Fujita was definitely in the business at that time, but this doesn't look like their style. I don't know when the others started in the SLR business, though Komine/Nittoh was certainly supplying rangefinder lenses in those days.
Sun is an outside possibility.
I think Tanaka, Arco and Zunow were defunct by then or not in that business. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
The styling reminds me of a 1950's Tamron, like the 135/4.5.
These were often sold through third parties in those days, like Taika/Aetna and Soligor, so why not Spiratone ? There were a number of undocumented fixed-mount designs made by Taisei Kogaku (later Tamron). This could be one of them. The 135/4.5 Tamron I have from this period is very good.
Alternately, it has some structural similarities with an early 135/2.8 t-mount Accura I have that I suspect may be a Tokina (Tokyo Koki). Thats a pretty good lens also.
The third guess is Cosina, unfortunately I have only seen what are probably a later preset series.
The fourth, fifth and sixth possibilities are Fujita, Komine(Nittoh Kogaku) and Kiron (Kino). Fujita was definitely in the business at that time, but this doesn't look like their style. I don't know when the others started in the SLR business, though Komine/Nittoh was certainly supplying rangefinder lenses in those days.
Sun is an outside possibility.
I think Tanaka, Arco and Zunow were defunct by then or not in that business. |
Hi,
Thanks for all the good info.
According to the seller this is a preset lens. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Yep, these third party things were nearly all presets. Automatic and semi-automatic lenses tended to come from the camera manufacturers in those days - except for Exakta of course.
Another outside possibility is Komura, but its not their style at all. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
The styling reminds me of a 1950's Tamron, like the 135/4.5.
These were often sold through third parties in those days, like Taika/Aetna and Soligor, so why not Spiratone ? There were a number of undocumented fixed-mount designs made by Taisei Kogaku (later Tamron). This could be one of them. The 135/4.5 Tamron I have from this period is very good.
Alternately, it has some structural similarities with an early 135/2.8 t-mount Accura I have that I suspect may be a Tokina (Tokyo Koki). Thats a pretty good lens also.
The third guess is Cosina, unfortunately I have only seen what are probably a later preset series.
The fourth, fifth and sixth possibilities are Fujita, Komine(Nittoh Kogaku) and Kiron (Kino). Fujita was definitely in the business at that time, but this doesn't look like their style. I don't know when the others started in the SLR business, though Komine/Nittoh was certainly supplying rangefinder lenses in those days.
Sun is an outside possibility.
I think Tanaka, Arco and Zunow were defunct by then or not in that business. |
I think it is a Tamron. The lens arrived it what appears to be the original Tamron tube. If I was a betting man I would put my money on Tamron. |
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