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Walking with the Zorki I and Jupiter 8 (50/2)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:59 pm    Post subject: Walking with the Zorki I and Jupiter 8 (50/2) Reply with quote

This is my first roll with the Zorki I and the Jupiter 50/2 (russian Sonnar copy), and actually my first roll with a 35mm rangefinder (I used some 6x6 before).
Film was Kodak Tmax100.







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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the first three.
You are getting a very classic look from this combo and film.
Are these all negative scans?


PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:

Are these all negative scans?


Yep, coming out now from my v700.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too, like the first set, but also like the last two in the second set, nice and
contrasty, those.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Alle you are getting much better results then I with Tmx100 and the V700.
Care to share your workflow?
Maybe I am trying for too much
Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Tmax is a lot grained. This is not so clearly visible in the above images reduced in size. But I pretty like this characteristic, mainly when I'm using very old lenses. You're right, it delivers a classic look.

Which scanning program did you use?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the epson so far. The scanner came with Silver Fast also but I did not try yet.
What do you think is the max DPI I should try?
I think that is my problem maybe.
Also I usually push this film 1-3 stops so grain gets kind of "chunky".
I like fuji neopan or accross better for scanning.
But I like the Tmax better usually for "wet" prints.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very nice series!
you get superb results with Tmax, do you develop it yourself


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Just the epson so far. The scanner came with Silver Fast also but I did not try yet.
What do you think is the max DPI I should try?
I think that is my problem maybe.
Also I usually push this film 1-3 stops so grain gets kind of "chunky".
I like fuji neopan or accross better for scanning.
But I like the Tmax better usually for "wet" prints.


I use Silverfast as I found it it's the easier program for me to use and get nice results from.

The Epson one is good just for some reflective scanning but it works very bad on negatives.

I also pushed the above about 1/2-1 stop.

If you have MSN I can follow you step-by-step in using Silverfast for the first times.

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Thanks for the compliments (not every shot abovde is a masterpiece but I really like the "feeling" they had).

The film was developed by a lab and I'm really tempted to build a darkroom, but then I know I'd want also to print by myself, so it's a path I want to stay away now, oherway I'll have to buy a second house just for my photographic equipment Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great series of B&W photos ! Congratulations.

On the last one of the second pack I imagine an old lady with a stick climbing or two lovers standing cross facing each other ... Smile

I thought that TMax has more fine grain and instead it had less contrast. I think the grain depends also on the developers used.

Here is a sample http://www.fotomozaic.ro/img_upload_users/136/153_10.jpg (Fuji Neopan SS had ISO 100)
and a more grainy film (supposed to be grainy because has higher ISO : 400) http://www.fotomozaic.ro/img_upload_users/136/153_11.jpg

Article is here but is in Romanian http://www.fotomozaic.ro/artikel.php?s=1&categ=0&idstory=153

Google translation Very Happy
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fotomozaic.ro%2Fartikel.php%3Fs%3D1%26categ%3D0%26idstory%3D153&sl=ro&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent shots. I really like them.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! First time shots! And some VERY nice keepers. The tonality is clean and pure.

I have a hard time with the V700 and negatives. Especially black and white negatives. The dr5 process and black and white transparencies, however, scan very well.

I would love to know your workflow in Silverfast.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the shots above my workflow was the following:

1) In Silverfast using Negafix, set to Kodak TMAX 100 and playing with the exposure value to get the most details from the shot.
2) I imported in Silverfats the Photoshop "basic" curves (linear, medium and strong contrast). I applied the linear one in this case.
3) Silverfast Levels is set to keep all the dynamic range possible, in case of TMAX is damn huge, 3-4 EV more than slides (as expected), and it can't be scanned completely so you have to make choices, always using Negafix exposure, not moving the black point of the level curve.
4) I scanned at 48->24 bit, 3200 DPI.
5) In photoshop I check the levels and apply automatic correction if needed (if the above steps were done well you'll have very little difference)
6) I desaturate the image (because there's always a bit of color cast coming from the scanning lamp).
7) Fix the blemishes coming from dust with the patch tool and similars.
8 ) Apply a H/S/L colorize layer at 4% with the following values: 40,20,0 to give a very slight sepia toning. Strangely the image will appear more Black& White than before (because our eyes are accostumed to B&W photos with this slight tonality).

That's all more or less.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANKS for taking the time to explain your work, Alessandro. It takes some effort, and I am aware of that effort, so it is doubly appreciated. Cool

The image #1 and #3 show a creamy tonality without a high degree of contrast. I find this very pleasing.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laurence wrote:
THANKS for taking the time to explain your work, Alessandro. It takes some effort, and I am aware of that effort, so it is doubly appreciated. Cool

The image #1 and #3 show a creamy tonality without a high degree of contrast. I find this very pleasing.


That tonality doesn't come from post processing. it comes from the Jupiter 8 completely open at f2. It becomes pretty "dreamy". Love it!