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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Nikon Series E 70-210mm f4 test shot. |
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tonymp wrote:
Hi guys,
This is a test shot which might just interest some Nikon owners - I took it with the old manual Series E 70-210mm f4 (constant) when I first aquired the lens for the princely sum of £42.00 from eBay and I love it!
The exposure was set using a Kodak Grey Card using the D200's spot metering. The crop is just very nearly 100% and the aperture was I believe f5.6 in natural winter sunlight. PP was quite minimal too and mostly confined to cropping and a little 'levels' adjustment as is usual with the D200.
Series E lenses which were primarily made for the consumer market are often considered as poor relatives of the AI and AIS Nikkors by some Nikon owners but, the Series E lenses I own are definitely good and comparable to even many of today's Nikon AF lenses which I also own. The bokeh at f5.6 on the 70-210 is just ideal when the lens is used for outdoor portraits / H&S shots.
Just to add, I shoot everything in manual mode, even with my AFD lenses so for me ALL lenses are manual LOL! I just find I get more accuracy using the AF lenses in manual mode! Maybe that is due to the fact that I shoot manual cameras most of the time.
The duck's head is not a particularly interesting subject but it shows the lense's capabilities.
I'll post a few more from my Nikon Series E's if anyone is interested!
Regards...
Tony
Series E 70-210 - (210mm fl) @ f5.6 - 100 ISO - D200
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Looks to me a really good one I am surprised... _________________ -------------------------------
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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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tonymp wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Looks to me a really good one I am surprised... |
Hi Attila,
it surprised me too - considering it was so cheap! This shot was just hand-held but I did do some other more detailed tests with the camera mounted on a tripod and it was really sharp!
At f4-5.6, it's ideal for portraits but gets a wee bit too sharp, especially with older skin, when stopped down further. This was shot at the longest end which is always the weakest end of a zoom, especially a 3x - at the shorter end, it's even sharper!
Tony _________________ www.le-femme.co.uk |
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poilu
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
very good, and if it is near 100% crop; surprising excellent _________________ T* |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is one of the best result, perhaps best what I seen from a zoom lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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tonymp wrote:
Attila wrote: |
This is one of the best result, perhaps best what I seen from a zoom lens. |
You ain't seen what I can get from my Series E 75 -150 f3.5. It's one of the sharpest mf zooms I've come across! It's my favourite lens by far but the 70-210 is no slouch!
Tony _________________ www.le-femme.co.uk |
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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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tonymp wrote:
poilu wrote: |
very good, and if it is near 100% crop; surprising excellent |
Hi Poilu,
I think the only way to test a lens is to blow up nice and big - at small sizes, most lenses will produce images that look sharp but when they are blown up, it shows. I'm certainly not a pixel-peeper but it does give an idea of just how sharp a perfomance the lens gives.
Tony _________________ www.le-femme.co.uk |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="tonymp"][quote="Attila"]This is one of the best result, perhaps best what I seen from a zoom lens.[/quote]
You ain't seen what I can get from my Series E 75 -150 f3.5. It's one of the sharpest mf zooms I've come across! It's my favourite lens by far but the 70-210 is no slouch!
Tony[/quote]
I'm not a nikon user, but I heard sometimes that the 75-150 is a great lens, first rate.
The 70-210, as you show, it's great too.
Enjoy. Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Seems need to get at leas three E lens , include these lenses _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="tonymp"][quote="poilu"]very good, and if it is near 100% crop; surprising excellent [/quote]
Hi Poilu,
I think the only way to test a lens is to blow up nice and big - at small sizes, most lenses will produce images that look sharp but when they are blown up, it shows. I'm certainly not a pixel-peeper but it does give an idea of just how sharp a perfomance the lens gives.
Tony[/quote]
Yes, you're right. But the pics in pixels not beat the paper's quality yet. For me, of course.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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tonymp wrote:
estudleon wrote: |
tonymp wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
This is one of the best result, perhaps best what I seen from a zoom lens. |
You ain't seen what I can get from my Series E 75 -150 f3.5. It's one of the sharpest mf zooms I've come across! It's my favourite lens by far but the 70-210 is no slouch!
Tony |
I'm not a nikon user, but I heard sometimes that the 75-150 is a great lens, first rate.
The 70-210, as you show, it's great too.
Enjoy. Rino. |
Yes, the Series E 75-150 is a cracking lens - as it's only a 2x zoom, there are minimal abberations which makes the lens very capable. It's also sharp wide open and gives excellent sharpness throughout and no CA's to mention! A very useful and reliable lens.
Most of the time, I use a 20-35 f2.8 D, a 35-70 f2.8D and the Series E 75-150 for my people shots - the first two are older paperazzi lenses from the film days and are great when used manually. The 75-150 just gives that extra reach and an excellent bokeh for tighter headshots. I also have quite a number of very good primes but I now seem to rarely use them unless I want shots that are ultra sharp in one specific focal length - those three lenses I've mentioned now cover most of my digital work.
Tony _________________ www.le-femme.co.uk |
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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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tonymp wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Seems need to get at leas three E lens , include these lenses |
If I were to suggest purchasing only one Nikon mf lens for portraits / headshots then it would be the 75-150 Series E without question. It covers the jobs just perfectly!
The old Nikon 105 f2.5 is another excellent lens.
Tony _________________ www.le-femme.co.uk |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I guess I will try soon _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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luisalegria
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I also have the Nikon E 70-150 , and it does indeed do very well.
Its a little hard to use on a Pentax though! _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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tonymp
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Posts: 87 Location: East Yorkshire UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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tonymp wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
I also have the Nikon E 70-150 , and it does indeed do very well.
Its a little hard to use on a Pentax though! |
I love mine and the best thing is the price - they're an absolute gift!
Tony _________________ www.le-femme.co.uk |
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