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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: New York Times Article about Manual Focus Lenses on dSLRs... |
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eggboy wrote:
I wonder if this will drive the market up for these lenses...since investors maybe want to take their money out of all the US banks that are getting shaky...
You might need to register (free) with the Times to get access. I can post the full text if anyone wants:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/technology/personaltech/11basics.html?_r=1
excert:
Vintage Lenses on Digital Cameras
By RUSS JUSKALIAN
"...For the vast majority of D.S.L.R. users, the switch that turns off the camera’s autofocus system is nothing more than a curiosity, some kind of vestigial remnant from a mechanical evolution. But a renewed interest in the deliberate twisting of a lens to focus has generated a healthy market for decades’ worth of optics that have been gathering dust in closets and taking up space as dead inventory on camera store shelves.
Photographers who had been all too happy to hold down the shutter button in a practice known as “machine-gunning” or “spray and pray” are now searching online for vintage lenses with exotic names like Pentax Takumar, Voigtländer Nokton, Chinon, Kiron, Fujinon, Hexanon and Rollei.." _________________ Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
Film Cameras:
Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
List and a photo or two of my lens herd |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
They mentioned the Canon FL 55mm f1.2! (I have one too )...I thought I recognised it from this tiny pic:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/11/technology/personaltech/11basics.190.jpg |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
Expire: 2013-12-03
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks for the link! I guess I will wait a little before I sell some of my lenses. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
Things ON SALE
Carsten = "KAPCTEH" = "Karusutenu" | T-shirt?.........................My photos from Emilia: http://www.schouler.net/emilia/emilia2011.html
My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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bawang
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 548 Location: Indiana, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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bawang wrote:
Look here for one of his source of information for the article.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/679246 |
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BobDodds
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 87
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: |
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BobDodds wrote:
Neither the article or the fredmiranda link mention that old lenses are better. |
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
Truly, honestly, I don't think old lenses are better from a raw technical imaging/contrast/resolution standpoint. Anymore than a fussy old English/Italian sports car or even, if you're a masochist, a vintage French car is 'better' than a new, safer, more fuel efficient, cleaner more reliable auto. But what is more wonderful and fun than an old Citroen?
It's more the glorious tactile feel of using an old, solidly built lens, the look of the lens, and, for me at least, the memory and nostalgia you get from shooting a 1960's era Nikkor, or even better, a prewar Exakta lens?
Old Nikon F Photomics with a Nikkor-P 105mm give me an almost Proustian memory rush back to my childhood in the sixties, and all the gritty black and white images produced by photojournalist: the Vietnam War, the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix...What other pictures have these lenses taken? Who's handled them? What is the story behind them?
Of course, I shoot Canon dSLRs now! Which means I can easily mount just about anything my heart desires on my 40D...except an old Leica Summar 50/2, alas.
Eugene _________________ Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
Film Cameras:
Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
List and a photo or two of my lens herd |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think old lenses in same quality than AF lens, lot more cheaper. Sometimes 10X more than equivalent AF lens, in many cases AF lenses made for MTF chart they are sharp and nothing else. Consumer choice is:
Pay plenty of money over and over again for AF lenses when manufacturers change their system and loose all value after all like Canon doing or buy old lenses and keep their value or increase a bit and use them on all future generation of camera with suitable adapter. I am not that rich to throw my money out of window to buy newest lenses. I am pretty fine with old ones I have time to set focus manually I spent about 3000-5000 USD for MF lenses I am pretty sure I can sell them with profit or without that. I am really not sure how much money I loose if I buy AF lenses for same amount.I guess at least 30% loose for sure. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Retro
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 173 Location: Krautland
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
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I wonder if this will drive the market up for these lenses... |
I hope so, `cause I have a great bunch of this old lenses...
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Truly, honestly, I don't think old lenses are better from a raw technical imaging/contrast/resolution standpoint |
I agree with Attila: this old M-42 are very, very good and also cheaper then nowadays lenses.
The nostalgic groove is a surplus.
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Sometimes 10X more than equivalent AF lens |
Here I agree too with Attlia. I bought three excellent Sigma AF´s for my Sigma cams, which in a second guess after the acquisition of several excellent M-42´s are now redundant. _________________ Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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