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Fotal
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: native Zeiss lenses for EOS cameras |
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Fotal wrote:
sounds interesting
http://proimaging.blogspot.com/2008/08/propix-news-carl-zeiss-for-canon-eos.html _________________ Mr Scott please restrain your leaps of illogic. I have said nothing. I was merely speculating. |
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 5486 Location: Left Coast
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Can this be?
I thought there was a licensing battle between these players _________________ Moderator |
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huhging
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 248 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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huhging wrote:
I've read this on other forum, and many people who read think that it's a false rumour. |
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
hmmm... aren't we already using these lenses on Canon bodies... _________________ -Ballu
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
From what I've read elsewhere, the patent on the EF lens mount is supposed to be about to expire. Since Canon, unlike Nikon, refused to license their lens mount to Zeiss for one, this alleged expiration may be the basis for the conjecture about there being Zeiss Oberkochen lenses with an EF mount in the pipeline.
In the end though, does it really matter since we can already mount Zeiss on Canon as Ballu says.... |
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Fotal
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Fotal wrote:
I would agree that this would still be a roumor grade news and I wont hold my breath until I see an official anouncement.
But the benefits are a few compared to using an adapter such as correct distance positioning, possibly registering the aperture, snug fit. _________________ Mr Scott please restrain your leaps of illogic. I have said nothing. I was merely speculating. |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Fotal wrote: |
But the benefits are a few compared to using an adapter |
to be able to focus wide open and let the camera stop down is a nice benefit in low light _________________ T* |
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
poilu wrote: |
Fotal wrote: |
But the benefits are a few compared to using an adapter |
to be able to focus wide open and let the camera stop down is a nice benefit in low light |
I dont think there will be any communication between Camera and lens. Is there any in Nikon mount Z* lenses?? _________________ -Ballu
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orly_andico
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 253 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
the ZK lenses definitely have full "A" functionality on Pentax (e.g. stop down works, open-aperture metering works). But then Pentax has mechanical stopdown.
If the ZE (?) lenses can transfer their EXIF information and focusing distance to the camera, then stopping down is trivial, since Canon lenses have an electromagnetic diaphragm and stopdown is done via electrical command. |
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
orly_andico wrote: |
the ZK lenses definitely have full "A" functionality on Pentax (e.g. stop down works, open-aperture metering works). But then Pentax has mechanical stopdown.
If the ZE (?) lenses can transfer their EXIF information and focusing distance to the camera, then stopping down is trivial, since Canon lenses have an electromagnetic diaphragm and stopdown is done via electrical command. |
The ZF lenses are fully mechanical, AIS lenses with no electronic coupling to the camera. Unlike the Voigtländer lenses made in the same factory ... on Nikon bodoes that have mechanical coupling (D200 and up) the aperture info is indeed conveyed to the camera (the focal length and max aperture must, alas, be input by the user).
I would guess therefore that fully manual, mechanical operation is somehow seen to be part of the Zeiss 'thing' and that any future EOS lenses would similarly not have electronic coupling. But my understanding is that, since Canon moved from FD to EF mount and jetisoned MF lenses, there is no equivalent mechanical coupling for Canon cameras. So perhaps they would have to use an electronic coupling, just to be able to work efficiently (and indeed just to get focus confirm!). _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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orly_andico
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 253 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
@Chris,
I guess that's one area where Pentax is advantageous. On the "A" lenses the maximum aperture is communicated to the body by a set of (passive) pins: basically if there's metal, that means something, if there's no metal (plastic plug) that also means something. Other than that, there's no other electrical coupling.
So on "A" lenses you have to dial in the focal length (needed for the image stabilizer) but nothing else: all functionality except AF works (the TAv mode is pretty sweet). |
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Fotal
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Fotal wrote:
seems real enough
http://www.zeiss.com/cln _________________ Mr Scott please restrain your leaps of illogic. I have said nothing. I was merely speculating. |
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Srono
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 43
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Srono wrote:
They also revive the Distagon T* 2.8/21 _________________ Leicaphile, Zeiss partisan, Konica fanboy |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16643 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Yep, "the legend was dead - long live the legend"
http://www.zeiss.com/C1256A770030BCE0/WebViewAllE/DDF7CD30A02E840BC12574C5004278BF
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Séamuis
Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 157 Location: here & now
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Séamuis wrote:
I would love to have a Planar T* 1,4/85 in ZK mount, but alas I already have two 85's does one need another, a Zeiss?
would look good on a Pentax body though, especially my MX. _________________ Fish-Eye -- Fish-Eye-Takumar 1:11/18
WideAngle -- Super-Takumar 1:3.5/28, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3/35, Auto-Takumar 1:3.5/35, Super-Takumar 1:3.5/35
Normal -- S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:1.8/55, Super-Takumar 1:1.8/55, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.8/55, SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55, Auto-Takumar 1:2/55
TeleType -- S-M-C Takumar 1:1.8/85, S-M-C Takumar 1:2.8/105, Super-Takumar 1:3.5/135, Tele-Takumar 1:6.3/300
Zoom -- Super Takumar-Zoom 1:4.5/70~150
Macro -- Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, S-M-C Macro-Takumar 1:4/100, Bellows-Takumar 1:4/100
Medium Format -- S-M-C Takumar 6X7 1:2.8/90 LS
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