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Seele
 Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 746 Location: Sydney Australia
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 Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 12:56 pm Post subject: Graflex Optar 135/4.7: rear group front surface haze |
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 Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 12:56 pm Post subject: Graflex Optar 135/4.7: rear group front surface haze |
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Seele wrote:
So I have inherited a Pacemaker Crown Graphic in quarter-plate size; it would have been jackpot if it's one size bigger or one size smaller, but it is what it is. Generally it seems to be in decent shape although a lot of cleaning is called for. However, the fitted Optar 135/4.7 has a big problem though: the front-facing (inner) surface of the rear group (cemented doublet) is hazed up to the point of being matted in a patchy way, usual cleaning methods did not seem to shift it; with a cleaning tissue moistened with lens cleaning fluid, the surface feels a bit rough. The cement layer is fine though.
I do not know if it is a known issue, and if so, there could well be a tried and tested remedy. I would be glad to hear from my more experienced fellow correspondents, thank you! |
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visualopsins
 Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11638 Location: California
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visualopsins wrote:
Congratulations! Try soap & water? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Solinon 1:5.6/18 ASPH.
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Seele
 Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 746 Location: Sydney Australia
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Seele wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
| Congratulations! Try soap & water? |
I sure hope you are kidding! But regular cleaning methods using Kodak lens cleaner makes no impact, the surface still feels a bit "textured", for want of a better word. Here is a picture of it... |
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visualopsins
 Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11638 Location: California
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 Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2025 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
No kidding! Recently another member cleaned what looked like water spot that were stubborn to all other cleaners, alcohol, naphta, etc..
That does look pretty bad, but what's to lose except all that? Definitely give it a try. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Solinon 1:5.6/18 ASPH.
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Seele
 Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 746 Location: Sydney Australia
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Seele wrote:
| visualopsins wrote: |
No kidding! Recently another member cleaned what looked like water spot that were stubborn to all other cleaners, alcohol, naphta, etc..
That does look pretty bad, but what's to lose except all that? Definitely give it a try. |
I have tried using Brasso and Silvo wadding metal cleaners, formerly known as Duraglit, but the problem remains uncooperative. Ideally the lens should be repolished by someone with the right equiipment (I used to use one) but that was like 20 years ago, perhaps I should give him a call. |
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