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miazgator
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 Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:05 pm Post subject: Carl Zeiss Sonnar 200mm F2.8 M42 - s/n 0009 question |
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miazgator wrote:
Dear experts at the MFlenses.com forum, I need your help. I have read through most of the posts on this forum regarding Carl Zeiss Jena lens serial numbers, including the thread "Carl Zeiss Jena lenses Issue date by serial number," and I am coming to you with an unusual puzzle.
I own a Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 200mm F2.8 lens with an M42 mount, and it has a very uncommon serial number. The serial number of this lens is "0009." I’ve read that four-digit serial numbers are from lenses made after 1980, but what exactly does 0009 signify? Could this be a test batch of lenses?
I would greatly appreciate any help identifying which batch this lens comes from or what the serial number 0009 specifically means.
Thank you very much,
Best regards,
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
Welcome miazgator!
Another new member has a new online tool for lens serial number lookup. Input 0009 gives "The serial number is below the minimum range for Carl Zeiss Jena (1890-1942)". Not much help here. Maybe later... https://forum.mflenses.com/wip-vintage-lens-serial-number-lookup-tool-t85365.html
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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kds315*
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:18 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Most likely a pototype lens this is. Is there any other marking on it like "V" etc.??
Add some pictures please!!
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http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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miazgator
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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miazgator wrote:
Sure:
Carl Zeiss Jena 200/2.8 Sonnar MC electric M42
Anyone help? |
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miazgator
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miazgator wrote:
Nice tool didn know that, TY! |
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miazgator
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| Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:32 am Post subject: |
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miazgator wrote:
Anyone can help here? |
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kds315*
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| Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:14 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Show a picture with that serial# number please!
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"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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stevemark
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stevemark wrote:
I would contact the guys behind zeissikonveb.de.
Lots of knowledge there!
S
EDIT:
1) the CZJ lenses from the late 1980s have a different SN scheme than the earlier continuous SNs at CZJ
2) during the transition from CZJ to Docter some lenses with four digit SN starting with zero were made
https://zeissikonveb.de/start/objektive/wechselobjektive-1980er/carl_zeiss_jena/
It seems your 2.8/180 Sonnar is from that transition period.
S
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