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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: Hartblei Super-Rotator 45/3.5 MC TS-PC |
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SonicScot wrote:
When I got this lens a month ago it seemed I might not be able to use it on my Canon 7D, the lens was a Contax 645 medium format and adapters were proving hard to find. (see this thread http://forum.mflenses.com/contax-645-adapter-to-eos-solved-t51070.html)
But after some internet searching I found a company willing to create an adapter for me, this firm http://www.srb-griturn.com/.
They returned my lens yesterday and I'm very impressed with the quality of their work. They essentially created a T2 mount and added a T2-EOS adapter, the head engineer told me that they allowed the lens to focus beyond infinity (better than not reaching it) and suggested a paper shim to suit. I've done just that today and now it's perfect.
Photos of the lens and mount:
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And how this beast looks on my 7D
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I've never used a tilt/shift lens before so I really don't know what I'm doing. However, I took it out yesterday and managed to create an image which gave the miniature effect that you often see from these lenses.
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I will be using the lens mostly for architectural work but it does have it's fun side. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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TimHar
Joined: 24 Jul 2012 Posts: 8 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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TimHar wrote:
That's great!! Cool lens |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
That's a good example. For me it's always difficult to find the right perspective and viewpoint for this miniature effect to work well. I need to go out and practice more. |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
TimHar wrote: |
That's great!! Cool lens |
Thanks. It attracts a lot of attention because it's so rarely seen. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Rare indeed. First time saw it!
Looks heavy and... nerd - impressive engineering art - just love the look of it |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
miran wrote: |
That's a good example. For me it's always difficult to find the right perspective and viewpoint for this miniature effect to work well. I need to go out and practice more. |
Thanks, it was more luck than design. I was around 40-50 feet above the garden in the photo and tried all manner of permutations with the lens before getting that shot. It's not easy to see the effect through the viewfinder, I must have wasted 50 shots before I got it right. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
hoanpham wrote: |
Rare indeed. First time saw it!
Looks heavy and... nerd - impressive engineering art - just love the look of it |
You're correct, it weighs just over a kilo
The engineering is outstanding, every movement is positive and silky smooth. I think it's the only lens that allows the tilt and shift to rotate 360 degrees independently of each other.
I've just found a couple more examples of the miniature effect which worked (sort of), the gardens are about 200 yards from top to bottom....
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The second shot shows the falconry shows I often go to, you can see the falconer in front of his audience.
This is one lens which will never leave my possession. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
Wow, both amazing shots! |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
SonicScot wrote: |
You're correct, it weighs just over a kilo
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I thought "wow, that's cool" until you mentioned weight _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
miran wrote: |
Wow, both amazing shots! |
Thanks. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
fermy wrote: |
SonicScot wrote: |
You're correct, it weighs just over a kilo
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I thought "wow, that's cool" until you mentioned weight |
It's still cool, just very heavy cool. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
beautiful beast, superb mini garden pics! _________________ T* |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
SonicScot wrote: |
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It's still cool, just very heavy cool. |
Saves you on gym too, between this and Tair I don't think you need any additional workout _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
poilu wrote: |
beautiful beast, superb mini garden pics! |
Thank you. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
fermy wrote: |
SonicScot wrote: |
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It's still cool, just very heavy cool. |
Saves you on gym too, between this and Tair I don't think you need any additional workout |
You're right, this is all the workout I'll need. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:25 am Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
Great lens and photos. Glad you finally got the riddle sorted out!! I was going to add to the possibility of SL66 and Hasselblad mounts which are also have those four tabs _________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:44 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
Thanks
I was lucky to stubble across the photographic/engineering company which solved the problem, they did an amazing job. In fact, I've turned to them again because I can't find a lens cap for an old fisheye lens I have. I'm hoping they can create something that will protect the front element. _________________ Gary
Currently active gear....
Sony a7
E-M1 Mkll
Rubinar 1000/10 + 2x matched extender
Tamron 500/8 55BB
Sigma 100-300/4
Vivitar Series 1.... 200/3, 70-210/3.5 (V1 by Kiron), 135/2.3, 105/2.5 macro, 90/2.5 macro (Bokina), 90-180/4.5 Flat Field Macro, 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5
Carl Zeiss.... 180/2.8, 135/3.5, 85/1.4, 35/2.4 Flektagon, 21/2.8 Distagon
Nikon.... 55/3.5 micro, 50/1.2
Elicar 90/2.5 V-HQ Macro
Zhongyi Speedmaster 85/1.2
Jupiter-9 85/2
Helios.... 58/2 44-3
Hartblei 45/3.5 Super-Rotator TS-PC
Zenitar 16/2.8 fisheye
Samyang 8/3.5 fisheye
Nodal Ninja 4, Neewer leveling tripod base
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/gazsus/ Website http://garianphotography.co.uk/ |
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