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uhoh7
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 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: Primogenitors: Nikkor S C 5cm f/1.4 and 10.5cm f/2.5 |
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uhoh7 wrote:
I read somewhere recently, this was the lens that made Nikons reputation amoung photojournalists.
One popped up the other day for 200USD along with:
the other great early nikon (maybe there were more), which I've been looking for at an affordable price. The SLR mounts are relatively cheap, but the RFs more pricey.
Both have reputations as outstanding portrait lenses wide open
that's one of my first captures with the 5cm
and a few more (all @1.4):
the 105 I only have a very few shots
the 105 may be redundant for me, but the 50, well I have alot of 50s but none like this. 
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saltese
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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saltese wrote:
I just love the look of those 105mm lenses. Nice work. Hope you enjoy both. |
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uhoh7
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
I took the 105 out today:
wide open:
about f/8:
house accros the street is at infinity, also f/8
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Cool, I've never seen these before! They mate with Nex well 
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I like the rendering of the 50 a lot, the bokeh is busy but I like it as it gives those pics an otherworldy feel. The portrait with the 50 is very nice too.
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uhoh7
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
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| I like the rendering of the 50 a lot, the bokeh is busy but I like it as it gives those pics an otherworldy feel. The portrait with the 50 is very nice too. |
I agree. I was going for max bokeh, but you can tone it down quickly with stops or distance.
I missed the focus on the portrait--it's actually a friggin razor in the center at 1.4
This is the most interesting lens I own, to my taste Perhaps I dropped too much acid back in the day
BTW this is the first f/1.4 lens made for 35mm film
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buggz
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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buggz wrote:
These are nice.
I recently got a pristine Nikon Nikkor-P Auto 105mm 2.5 Nippon Kogaku Non AI.
My ONLY real "complaint" with this lens is the MFD, it's rather long.
I think I did try it with tubes, but still, not the same as a close focus design.
Have to post some pics I have from it and the 5DMkII.
BTW, how is the MFD of that 5cm ?
Do you know the measurement in feet?
I like the bokeh of the 5cm, reminds me of the Meyer Trioplan.
I also wonder if the optical formula is different for the 5cm and the 50mm
Probably is, as my copy of the 105 pre AI is different from the AI, and AIS versions.
This according to the Nikon Lens DB, I believe a site in NZ. |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Wow, those whiskers are razor-sharp!
I can't wait for the adapter to arrive so I can try my Canon 1.4 50 on my new NEX. never shot a 1.4 before, if it's as doos as this Nikkor I'll be as happy as a porcine in faecal matter!
I particularly like the second flower shot due to the bokeh.
The missed focus on the portrait imho worked perfectly, slightly soft look which I love.
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
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These are nice.
I recently got a pristine Nikon Nikkor-P Auto 105mm 2.5 Nippon Kogaku Non AI.
My ONLY real "complaint" with this lens is the MFD, it's rather long.
I think I did try it with tubes, but still, not the same as a close focus design.
Have to post some pics I have from it and the 5DMkII.
BTW, how is the MFD of that 5cm ?
Do you know the measurement in feet?
I like the bokeh of the 5cm, reminds me of the Meyer Trioplan.
I also wonder if the optical formula is different for the 5cm and the 50mm
Probably is, as my copy of the 105 pre AI is different from the AI, and AIS versions.
This according to the Nikon Lens DB, I believe a site in NZ. |
If I'm not mistaken your nikkor-P is the same formula. MFD of the 50 is .9 I think, but I suspect it would be very good with one of the new helicoid nex adapters.
here is my Canon LTM 50/1.2 (nowhere near as sharp) on a 55mm kilfitt helicoid:
That's a very small cherry blossum
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buggz wrote:
Nikon Nikkor-P Auto 105mm 2.5 Nippon Kogaku Non AI & Canon 5DMkII:
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martyn_bannister
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:57 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
What a lovely portrait! |
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uhoh7
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:50 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
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Nikon Nikkor-P Auto 105mm 2.5 Nippon Kogaku Non AI & Canon 5DMkII:
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meow...
nikkor S 50/1.4 @ 1.4 The cat is down to f/64
above my copy of the 105/2.5 which does have some light haze in a middle group.
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uhoh7 wrote:
5cm 50/1.4
Compaisons 1.4 vs f/8
overall shaprness at f/8:
about a 90% crop:
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uhoh7 wrote:
the wildness is always wide open and close
summicron 50 v4 @ f/2:
nikkor-s 50/1.4 @ f/2
same, now at f/1.4
My copy does not match the summicron or canon LTM 50/1.4 at infinity f/8
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uhoh7 wrote:
in this shot I think you can see what this lens wants to do
that at 1.4
as your subject gets further away.....
above at f/2
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kuuan wrote:
great samples, the last of the dog's photos and the first of your daughter certainly show the strengths of the Nikkor, it's center sharpness and 'Sonnar' bokeh wide open, very well
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