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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Soligor lenses were made by many more than that -
Tokina, Kiron, Nittoh/Komine, Nissin/Sankor, Kyoei, Kawakami/Kawanon, Cosina, Fujita, Sun, and more besides.
They were in the lens rebranding business for @30 years, so there is a lot out there.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
A lot of the Soligors are seen as Hanimex or Optomax too. Certainly most of the Auto series of the mid 60s which were mostly Tokinas and had H serials are commonly seen as Hanimex. These 60s Tokinas are usually decent performers and very well made.
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marcusBMG wrote:
My first set of pics suggests this Itoh 400mm is a rather average performer. Interesting and distinctive lens though.
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WNG555 wrote:
Been quite happy with a Soligor Wide Auto 21mm f/3.8 by Tokina. Equipped with T4 mount.
Still quite affordable for this focal length.
Excellent resolution, center is very sharp, and color is rich and warm. Low to nil aberrations.
72mm filter diameter....could benefit from a hood to control flaring. But overall, it handles that well too. (last shot)
Build is very good, and works well for landscapes as well. A great lens buy.
 DSC03072_Soligor 21mm f3.8 T4 by wNG 555, on Flickr
 DSC03071c_Soligor 21mm f3.8 T4 by wNG 555, on Flickr
 sOLE bACI 5 by wNG 555, on Flickr
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:42 pm Post subject: Soligor 400mm f5.6 's |
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marcusBMG wrote:
i think I've got the 400mm f6.3's sussed, but I don't know anything about the f5.6's. There appears to be two varieties:
38xxxx serials
77xxxx serial
Any info?
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Lloydy
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| Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Soligor 400mm f5.6 's |
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Lloydy wrote:
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i think I've got the 400mm f6.3's sussed, but I don't know anything about the f5.6's. There appears to be two varieties:
38xxxx serials
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I saw one the same as the bottom lens at the camera fair yesterday, also with Olympus OM mount and it had a H 7****** serial number which indicates a Tokina, and a bargain for £20
The top one has the semi gloss black finish of the CD lens range, at least all my CD lenses have that finish, and they all seem to be Tokina's as well. The 3****** number on that lens is attributed to SUN, and it does have the look of a big old SUN zoom that I've got somewhere.
My 400 5.6 is a Kino / Kiron 'chrome eared' model with a 97***** number.
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marcusBMG wrote:
The reason I doubt the tokina attribution is because they don't look like either of the tokina own nameplate f5.6's: tokina sd 400mm, tokina rmc 400mm
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: Soligor 135mm f1.8 |
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starlights wrote:
Soligor 135mm f1.8
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 SNXT6577
Sample: @1.8 on Fuji X-T1
 Soligor 135_1-8_SNXT6815
 Soligor 135_1-8_SNXT6807
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:52 pm Post subject: T4 to TX convert |
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marcusBMG wrote:
So this is how to convert your T4 mount soligor to use a TX PK mount:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/10-pentax-slr-lens-discussion/311306-converting-t4-lenses-tx-k-mount-adapter.html
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| Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: T4 to TX convert |
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Lloydy wrote:
There's a simpler, non destructive method which I have described with pictures somewhere on the forum ages ago.
I can't remember the exact details, I'll have to get the lenses out and look. Basically, one mount fits the other OK, but try it the other way around and the mount jams in the lens. The problem is the ratchet pawl that grips the adapter doesn't lift high enough, so it can jam and only grips on maybe one tooth. Unscrew the release button part on the lens and make a thin shim - I used some flexible plastic from some packaging that was less than 0.5mm thick - to space the button / pawl assembly away from the lens.
Hacking that back plate for the pin to move freely didn't seem to be a problem when I did it, I'll check again though.
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Lloydy wrote:
The Vivitar has a breechlock Canon mount. The Soligor has a M42 mount.
I have raised the catch on the Vivitar lens with a thin plastic shim, not much thicker than a sheet of paper. Both mounts click into place with three clicks and release easily.
I can swop mounts and both work on the other lens OK, all the aperture works fine. The Vivitar mount on the Soligor lens is fiddly for some reason, the breechlock ring turning doesn't help, but it does go in without any force.
The curved slot in the back plate is not a problem on these lenses. The guy on the Pentax Forum has modified the lens for a different reason I think - possibly something to do with the rotation of the aperture ring? both the Vivitar and Soligor have two sets of ap' marks - clockwise and anti clockwise. The Vivitar has a long slot as the modified one on the Pentax forum has, and it has three forks. The Soligor has a short slot and two forks. So I'm thinking that maybe a Nikon, Olympus or some other mount needs that long slot?
All I wanted was to use the M42 mount on both lenses, which I achieved. Being able to swap them might have been luck?
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marcusBMG wrote:
I've usually been able to swap M42 mounts between T4 and TX.
I've had inconsistent experiences with the PK mount. I have a vague recollection that my TX Pk mount did fit on a T4 mount lens. But it certainly doesn't fit on my recently acquired 28mm vivitar. As the posted thread i linked to indicates, there is an aperture pin that gets in the way.
I should have another look at it.
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Lloydy wrote:
to get the M42 Soligor adapter into the Vivitar lens I had to shim the catch, it wasn't that adapter wouldn't lock in place - it wouldn't go into the right position because the pawl stopped it.
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stevemark wrote:
Early Soligor lenses from the 1960ies look remarkably similar as many Miranda SLR lenses. Both were manufactured by Allimatsu (Tokyo).
http://www.klassik-cameras.de/miranda_programm.jpg
Both Allimatsu and Miranda were part of the larger AIC company, which went bankrupt in 1976. The name "Soligor" suvived, but manufacturing was outsourced to different companies.
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PBFACTS wrote:
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Early Soligor lenses from the 1960ies look remarkably similar as many Miranda SLR lenses. Both were manufactured by Allimatsu (Tokyo).
http://www.klassik-cameras.de/miranda_programm.jpg
Both Allimatsu and Miranda were part of the larger AIC company, which went bankrupt in 1976. The name "Soligor" suvived, but manufacturing was outsourced to different companies.
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Allimatsu is the name of the company which sold soligor lenses and supplied miranda lenses to mirando co
NEVER a lens was manufactured by allimatsu which was ONLY a trading company
They supplied from ABSOLUTELY ALL independant lens manufacturer (except if my memory is exact from makinon et perhaps to be checked from cimko) : Tokina, sun , kowa, kino , komine..............
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WNG555 wrote:
Adding another Soligor to the big reference thread.....
Soligor C/D 28-200mm f/3.8-5.5 Zoom+Macro. A push-pull zoom. Unknown Japanese manufacturer.
Mine is Canon FD mount, in excellent condition. Found only one opinion online that the lens is pathetically bad. Not much online about it.
Found this copy for next to nothing, thought I'd see for myself, it's a C/D lens, how bad could it actually be?
First off, it's big and heavy and well built, 72mm dia front end. The f-stops seem dubious and likely adjusted by marketing. More f/4-5.6 I bet. The T-stop rating must be much lower as the lens is consistently much darker in the EVF than similar zooms at same settings/F.L., this made exposures difficult, exacerbated by a short 45 degree focus rotation. The MC seems to be quite good, colors are pleasing, no fringing, or aberrations. But the ability to get a sharp photo is next to impossible.
Over a hundred test shots, only one photo was focused spot on. Which revealed the lens' optical performance is capable, but squandered in the execution.
I was never a fan of super zooms, and avoided them. I got lax and curious, and now this one has reinforced my opinion...few if any vintage zooms one is willing to live with and actually use. More modern 18-200 or 18-300mm zooms are out there, and the lure is strong to see if there is a one-lens option.
This one is to be avoided. Pic of the front of the lens...
One shot nailing the focus. No sharpening or color adjustments.
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
The second Soligor looks pretty much like my Sun-made Universar(300/4.5)
The girdle-like metal focus ring, all this fake silver, it just shouts Sun. Can you pull its front end for a lens shade? Very practical idea.
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stevemark wrote:
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Allimatsu is the name of the company which sold soligor lenses and supplied miranda lenses to mirando co
NEVER a lens was manufactured by allimatsu which was ONLY a trading company
They supplied from ABSOLUTELY ALL independant lens manufacturer (except if my memory is exact from makinon et perhaps to be checked from cimko) : Tokina, sun , kowa, kino , komine.............. |
Thanks for the correction & clarification!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:30 pm Post subject: soligor 600mm |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Filched this pic off an ebay ad.
Luis had a KA serial one according to his original thread, ascribed to ? kawanon. What do you think of this one?
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georgioiv wrote:
Hello everybody ! Here are my two lenses:
80-200/4,5
85/1.5
I can not insert pictures yet 
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
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Hello everybody ! Here are my two lenses:
80-200/4,5
85/1.5
I can not insert pictures yet
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Lloydy wrote:
The 85 / 1.5 could be interesting, how does it perform?
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georgioiv wrote:
photo with the 85/1.5: f 1.5, Canon 6D love this glass )
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enzodm wrote:
Two recent acquisitions: 200/2.8 C/D and Twin tele (135/4.5, 225/7.7).
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PaletoB wrote:
Hello everyone I am new here and truth bee told will probably not be very active, but have some pics of my faders Soligor 400/6,3 - Serieal: 9712817. My fader even have the receipt from he bought it. But the main reason I am sharing these pics here is the mount which I cant quit figure out. Adapter ring is a M42x1, ( he used it on his Yashica) but the lens have a conical edge (which seems permanently attached) and the ring locks on with three screws. Trying to find adapter rings for my sisters Sony alpha and my own old Olympus OM.
Think its a type of T mount,
quote from wikipedia "Some T-mount lenses accept a T-adapter that lacks its threaded inner ring, and simply slides onto the T-mount lens. It is secured only by 3 set screws that match a channel on the lens barrel, such that the barrel is not deformed by the set screws and the adapter can therefore be removed with no damage." But that is all the information I can find. Perhaps a standard T/T2 threaded ring will fit ?
Sorry for the bad pictures,
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