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yinyangbt
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 Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: Zuiko 28/2 vs Rokkor 28/2 vs Vivitar 1 28/2 wide open ? |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Hi !
these are some variants for a normal fast on APS_C .What do you think?
especially for low light or night city photo on my new nex3 
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Isn't the Series 1 Vivitar a 1.9/28?
Anyway, I guess the Zuiko probably is the best one, the Rokkor surely not bad and the Vivtars as well as the Kiron also perform great on APS.
Esp. for the NEX I like the Zuikos a lot, because of their compact size.
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yinyangbt
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:54 am Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
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Isn't the Series 1 Vivitar a 1.9/28?
Anyway, I guess the Zuiko probably is the best one, the Rokkor surely not bad and the Vivtars as well as the Kiron also perform great on APS.
Esp. for the NEX I like the Zuikos a lot, because of their compact size. |
Thank you ! I was thinking the same . It is a vivitar series 1 indeed . Probably cheaper than the Zuiko and Rokkor . The Zuiko is indeed, more compact .
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Vivitar also produced an f/2 version of the Close Focus model, which might be better than the Series 1. All are good lenses; the Series 1 probably has more CA based on my Series 1 experiences. If I were you, and may be a NEX owner in the near future, when given a choice of lenses that are all good, I would consider the mount that would not force another purchase. I expect I would have a Rokkor adapter (only because I have old collection still) and then try to limit the others needed.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
if you mean this MD W.Rokkor 2/28mm.. this is a perfect lens !!
I converted this Rokkor to Canon EOS and it's on par with an Elmarit 2.8/28mm !! The Bokeh is great and gives stunning results..
Me, i would prefer this lens. Cant remember a better one in this class.
All pics taken at f2 !! On a NEX outch.. this lens is better for FF use.. !
But for sure the lens will do it as nicely as on FF.. but to use the Lens only on a NEX will bring tears in my eyes.. 
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yinyangbt
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
hinnerker , in fact it is a MC 28mm f2 , I think it's a little bigger and heavier than the MD 28mm f2.Don't know about the coatings , it's possible that the MD have better coatings than the MC (my MC 24 flares a little too much )
woodrim, in fact I have the MC 24mm f2.8 ,MD 28mm f2.8 and the 45mm f2 Rokkors that share a brand new adapter and a silver nex 3 
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Ivan Lee
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Ivan Lee wrote:
I made a test comparing these lenses: the Minolta MD 28/2, Vivitar 28/2 CF and Vivitar 28/1.9. I just don't have experience with the Zuiko....but I can say that the Minolta is absolutelly STUNNING wide open, the Vivitar 28/2 CF is also very nice wide open but suffers from CA, and the 28/1.9 is a little soft, but has a nice character and nice bokeh.
I doubt the zuiko is better than the Minolta, because the minolta is so sharp wide open....and closed to f/2.8 is one of my sharpest lenses.
I'll have to look for my test and I will post here
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Ivan Lee
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Ivan Lee wrote:
found it... full res samples...all wide open
Minolta 28/2 MD
http://www.ivanlee.com.br/photos/min28.jpg
Vivitar 28/2 Close Focus
http://www.ivanlee.com.br/photos/viv28cf.jpg
Vivitar 28/1.9 Series 1
http://www.ivanlee.com.br/photos/viv28s1.jpg
if you need more samples I have here...
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Pancolart wrote:
Do you still have those samples? Please re-post, it would be nice to compare.
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papasito
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papasito wrote:
Nice question. Very instructive, thanks.
I can see a strong CA in the 1 and 3 images from hinnerker.
And he said the lens is a perfect one.
The CA is "normal" in so good wide lenses? |
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
This is an old thread. Since my last post, I have acquired a Vivitar Close Focus 2/28. WHile I have no Rokkor to compare with, this Vivitar is wonderful. All taken wide open...
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JJB
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JJB wrote:
Woodrim, the sharpness is impressive, especially the banknote. Hard to believe they were taken wide open. Is it made by Komine?
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
Yes, Komine. Each shot was a test of wide open when I first got the lens.
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kuuan
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kuuan wrote:
those really are very impressive Woodrim!
My Vivitar 2/28 is the one made by Kiron, it doesn't say 'close focus' ( nevertheless focuses down to 30 cm ) and from what I read it's possibly the fast 28mm Vivitar that is regarded the least of all, however I have found it very sharp too.
Wide open possibly not as impressively so as the Close Focus by Komine but imo still quite good for a 2/28 wide open, a test shot I just did in the garden:
100% crops:
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simbon4o
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simbon4o wrote:
If you are going to use it on crop sensor none of them is good enough. But you can buy Mitakon Lens Turbo II and one AF-S Nikkor 35 1.8 and it will be something like 28 1.2 on your nex and cheaper too. Optically - better than all 28 2.0.
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Tervueren wrote:
Might be selling my Rokkor 28/2 shortly, since getting my K3 I'm not finding I use my minolta glass very often. |
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